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Old 07-08-2009, 04:24 PM   #1
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CNSNews.com - Democratic Leader Laughs at Idea That House Members Would Actually Read Health-Care Bill Before Voting On It

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House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that the health-care reform bill now pending in Congress would garner very few votes if lawmakers actually had to read the entire bill before voting on it.
“If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn’t read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,” Hoyer told CNSNews.com at his regular weekly news conference.

Hoyer was responding to a question from CNSNews.com on whether he supported a pledge that asks members of the Congress to read the entire bill before voting on it and also make the full text of the bill available to the public for 72 hours before a vote.

No, we can't read !!!!!1

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Old 07-09-2009, 09:03 AM   #2
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We've gone from our politicians writing the Federalist Papers (Madison, Jay, and Hamilton) to buffons who think scanning the front page of the Washington Post as heavy reading.

We're doomed.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:19 AM   #3
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I'm not justifying it, but your qoute doesn't read like your insinuating.

When I read that, he is simply saying that most won't read it, and therefore wouldn't vote on it.

I didn't get the sense that he was laughing or anything sarcastic...
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This is why congressmen have staffs. The yearly budget is something like 50,000 pages on average. Consuming 250 pages of dry, legal prose per day requires better than 1/2 a year to cover 50,000 pages. The seat holders have trusted subordinates write the bills according to their specifications and other trusted subordinates check their work. This is how any huge task gets done, by having leaders delegate tasks.

Imagine where the computer industry might be today if Bill Gates had felt duty bound to read all 25 million lines of code that made up his Windows 95 before releasing it. My guess is that it still would have been Windows 95, only the 95 would have stood for 2095.

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This is why congressmen have staffs. The yearly budget is something like 50,000 pages on average. Consuming 250 pages of dry, legal prose per day requires better than 1/2 a year to cover 50,000 pages. The seat holders have trusted subordinates write the bills according to their specifications and other trusted subordinates check their work. This is how any huge task gets done, by having leaders delegate tasks.

Imagine where the computer industry might be today if Bill Gates had felt duty bound to read all 25 million lines of code that made up his Windows 95 before releasing it. My guess is that it still would have been Windows 95, only the 95 would have stood for 2095.
bill gates was not elected........and every block of code is tested prior to product completion......a pathetic analogy

it is the job of an elected official to know exactly what they are voting for.........in your case, we should vote for the subordinates instead.....they are the ones doing the work........

typically libbie 'whatever' world........most of them will vote for it because their side is voting for it.......much in the manner our current prez was elected.........

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typically libbie 'whatever' world........most of them will vote for it because their side is voting for it.......much in the manner our current prez was elected.........
You're really funny.
Yeah, all the mindless automatons are on the left.
All the free thinkers are Republicans.
Dittoheads.
John Boehner is such a trailblazer!
LOL!
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You're really funny.
Yeah, all the mindless automatons are on the left.
All the free thinkers are Republicans.
Dittoheads.
John Boehner is such a trailblazer!
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I agree with you there............both sides behave in the same manner.....fact is, repubs don't go around calling themselves smart
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Here's what we'll do Tank. We'll construct a language that condenses 50k or 100k or 500,000 pages of legal text written in English into I dunno maybe 3000 single sided double spaced pages that still meets the standard of completeness that the courts require of legal text. That's something that your average Congressman can cover in a year or so, reading wise, and still have time to determine and debate what these laws should actually say and you know campaign and maybe sleep and eat from time to time.

I say we call it Esperanto. Has a nice ring to it IMO.
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This is a yet another bogus issue from the largely clueless Republican Party. The notion that every bill must be read in its entirety is plain silly. We do not elect Congresspeople as technical experts, but rather as people to represent our general concerns. There are numerous experts at various levels of government, including Congress, to vet a piece of legislation.
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There are numerous experts at various levels of government, including Congress, to vet a piece of legislation.
Given the non stimulative stimulus, I'd say you're wrong or they're bad at it. Who was it who said the stimulus was heavy on spending and light on stimulus ? Right, the "largely clueless" Republicans.
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