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***NEPatriot*** · 07-03-2009, 01:04 PM

American Thinker: Mark Levin's Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto

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The overall plan of the book is simple and logical. Chapter One, "On Liberty and Tyranny," lays out the basic conceptual scheme. Levin contrasts two opposing political philosophies currently in contention: The Conservative versus the Statist. He grounds the Conservative in the values and insights on human nature of the American Founders, and does so economically and convincingly. For the other side of the debate, he quite correctly rejects the label "liberal", because in current usage the term has become entirely divorced from its literal meaning. He writes:

The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state.... For the Modern Liberal, the individual's imperfection and personal pursuits impede the objectives of a utopian state. In this, Modern Liberalism promotes what French Historian Alexis de Tocqueville called soft tyranny, which becomes increasingly more oppressive, partially leading to hard tyranny.... As the word "liberal" is, in its classical meaning, the opposite of authoritarian, it is more accurate, therefore, to characterize the Modern Liberal as a Statist. (p.4)

The author of this book thinks so. I'll read it.

***DarrylS*** · 07-03-2009, 01:06 PM

I see and hear a lot of babble, but not much action.. change you can believe in.. not sure that the Conservatives can rally a big base... right now it looks like guerilla warfare.

Fogbuster · 07-03-2009, 01:15 PM

If they screw up badly enough, there will be reaction. Bet the ranch on that.

Change that makes one heave.

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godef · 07-03-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPatriot

American Thinker: Mark Levin's Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto

The author of this book thinks so. I'll read it.

A new Conservative Revolution which the GOP should have encouraged years ago before they sunk there own party.

Kdo5 · 07-03-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPatriot

American Thinker: Mark Levin's Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto

The author of this book thinks so. I'll read it.

It's a good read. I quite enjoyed the chapter on the Enviro-Statist.

godef · 07-03-2009, 02:12 PM

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The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state.... For the Modern Liberal, the individual's imperfection and personal pursuits impede the objectives of a utopian state. In this, Modern Liberalism promotes what French Historian Alexis de Tocqueville called soft tyranny, which becomes increasingly more oppressive, partially leading to hard tyranny.... As the word "liberal" is, in its classical meaning, the opposite of authoritarian, it is more accurate, therefore, to characterize the Modern Liberal as a Statist. (p.4)

This text is really twisted, and Mark Levin is obviously just another necon. I find it laughable when he says "The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state" when in fact they only try to impose necessary regulation to keep the conservative bankers and Wall St types from taking advantage over rank-and-file citizens to drive their own greed. Utopia is an impossible state: there's always ugly work to be done, and it can only come close to being accomplished to the benefit of the influential over the poor and downtrodden.

The GOP has always claimed to favor minimized government, but this has always translated into deregulation which supports what this author blames on liberals. It is the conservatives who are the authoritarians, not the liberals.

Fogbuster · 07-03-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by godef

This text is really twisted, and Mark Levin is obviously just another necon. I find it laughable when he says "The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state" when in fact they only try to impose necessary regulation to keep the conservative bankers and Wall St types from taking advantage over rank-and-file citizens to drive their own greed. Utopia is an impossible state: there's always ugly work to be done, and it can only come close to being accomplished to the benefit of the influential over the poor and downtrodden.

The GOP has always claimed to favor minimized government, but this has always translated into deregulation which supports what this author blames on liberals. It is the conservatives who are the authoritarians, not the liberals.

Ahhhhh, no, not true. Conservatives believe in limited authority resting in as few hands as possible. Kind of like the word "conservative" comes from the word "conserve", you know, to "keep as much as possible, without a lot of waste", like, "let's conserve the water in case it doesn't rain for a while", or "let's conserve our money in case of an unexpected illness or injury or slow down in business". "Let's keep close council on ourselves and not bother with someone else 'taking care' of us. Limited gov'ment, like."

Conservatives like to "conserve" things, don't like to waste things. Not afraid to work for that, either.

Liberals think money grows on trees and that they just want to get one of those trees, no matter who pays for it. OPM, other peoples' money.

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***Harry Boy*** · 07-03-2009, 02:43 PM

President Prince Jug Ears Obama and the GRINNING democrat Pelosi Lap Dogs will within the next four years bring about the entire collapse of the New MTV Democrat Party.
GOOD RIDDENCE

***reflexblue*** · 07-03-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

President Prince Jug Ears Obama and the GRINNING democrat Pelosi Lap Dogs will within the next four years bring about the entire collapse of the New MTV Democrat Party.
GOOD RIDDENCE

Do you still watch MTV Harry?

***reflexblue*** · 07-03-2009, 03:30 PM

Baby Cyclops born in India - Pravda.Ru
Two weeks ago, in the Kasturba Ghandi Hospital in the city of Chennai, a baby with one eye was born. Doctors believe that the baby has a good chance of living on. A similar case also occurred in Russia.

Typically, the nose and nostrils are missing, adding to the disfigurement. Only one in one million babies are born with this defect, as it is detected early in pregnancy and is almost always aborted. Not this time, however.

YES....

A one eyed baby.... Now THATS change we can believe in.