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To my knowledge, no one ever claimed that the recession would be over or unemployment would be in decline by now. In fact, even early on, most experts that I read said that the recesson would last at least the year, but unemployment would continue to climb beyond that. Nonetheless, it's important for Republicans to show discontent in order to frame the discussion later on. The question is, Why are they doing it here? Do you really think that if Obama was doing a good job, the recession would be over and employment would be on the way up by now?
Well Mr Teleprompter and his Posse said that the stimilus would hold the unemployment rate below 8%. Here is their chart from the intro the the stimilus plan, the blue lines are the Obama Biden fantasies, the red dots are the reality predicted by conservatives like me.
Note Just how clueless Team Obama was in their silly projections.
The next shoe to drop will be the massive increase in the budget deficit beyond the crazy high numbers the obamaites have admitted to. They won't come close to their economic growth numbers.
Remember the idiots predicted 4% growth in Q4. The fun is just beginning. If they push through the 2nd stimilus and the 'health care reform' the country will be in far worse shape than the mess were are heading into.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
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Well Mr Teleprompter and his Posse said that the stimulus would hold the unemployment rate below 8%. Here is their chart from the intro the the stimulus plan, the blue lines are the Obama Biden fantasies, the red dots are the reality predicted by conservatives like me.
Thank goodness for the stimulus bill or things would certainly be worse.
Given when the stimulus bill was passed, it seems apparent that the extent of the fourth quarter contraction was known. Bush clearly left us in worse shape than initially thought.
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Note Just how clueless Team Obama was in their silly projections.
I think it would be easy to show that Administration numbers, regardless of who's in office, are always very optimistic.
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
The next shoe to drop will be the massive increase in the budget deficit beyond the crazy high numbers the obamaites have admitted to. They won't come close to their economic growth numbers.
Remember the idiots predicted 4% growth in Q4. The fun is just beginning. If they push through the 2nd stimulus and the 'health care reform' the country will be in far worse shape than the mess were are heading into.
No, I don't think they ever really expected 4% growth, but their strategy like that of all administrations is to get their plan implemented. I know at some level you know that, but I also understand the value of this fodder in trying to salvage the Republican Party.
Thank goodness for the stimulus bill or things would certainly be worse.
If taxes had been cut to encourage investment things would be much better. I of course predicted that the stimilus wouldn't help. What I predicted earlier is coming to pass. You IIRC felt the stimulus would be effective.
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Given when the stimulus bill was passed, it seems apparent that the extent of the fourth quarter contraction was known. Bush clearly left us in worse shape than initially thought.
Really The Obama team claimed to be on top of the situation. Apparently they were full of it.
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I think it would be easy to show that Administration numbers, regardless of who's in office, are always very optimistic.
Optimistic is one thing, the wet dream that was sold to the country was pure fiction. Besides according to the progressives like you his predictions were accurate. Remember our conversations when the stimulus was announced?
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No, I don't think they ever really expected 4% growth, but their strategy like that of all administrations is to get their plan implemented. I know at some level you know that, but I also understand the value of this fodder in trying to salvage the Republican Party.
Excuse me the 4% growth was in their budget and was used to show a lower deficit...
I don't care about the pubbies, sorry I do care about conservative/libertarian economic policies that produce a healthy economy. Instead of the disasterous statist policies being put in place by the dems.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
If taxes had been cut to encourage investment things would be much better. I of course predicted that the stimulus wouldn't help. What I predicted earlier is coming to pass. You IIRC felt the stimulus would be effective.
No, people would have saved their money like they're doing now, and we'd have a bad deficit, and we'd be building up the deficit with unemployment insurance. It's 5 months into Obama's term. It's a bit too early to make a prediction. But, I agree with those who say a second stimulus may be necessary.
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Really The Obama team claimed to be on top of the situation. Apparently they were full of it.
Sure they were, but that's how you get things done in DC. Remember "Mission accomplished." It served Bush's short term interests.
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Optimistic is one thing, the wet dream that was sold to the country was pure fiction. Besides according to the progressives like you his predictions were accurate. Remember our conversations when the stimulus was announced?
Oh, I think your pessimism is misplaced, but only time will tell. I think without the stimulus we'd be worse off.
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
Excuse me the 4% growth was in their budget and was used to show a lower deficit...
I don't care about the pubbies, sorry I do care about conservative/libertarian economic policies that produce a healthy economy. Instead of the disastrous statist policies being put in place by the dems.
Conservative policies gave us the current recession, and libertarian policies gave us the Great Depression. Great track record.
No, people would have saved their money like they're doing now, and we'd have a bad deficit, and we'd be building up the deficit with unemployment insurance. It's 5 months into Obama's term. It's a bit too early to make a prediction. But, I agree with those who say a second stimulus may be necessary.
bad deficit? we have by far the worst one ever right now........
patters is a rolodex of excuses for the barry.......you will be saying the same crap after a year......but by then it will be too late
Bottom line I predicted his policies would fail, you predict they would suceed, we shall see, so far things are going according to his plan regardless of your spin.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Obama is running this country based upon his radical socio-economic philosophy, not economic reality. We are now beginning to see the negative impact. His chickens are coming home to roost.
To my knowledge, no one ever claimed that the recession would be over or unemployment would be in decline by now. In fact, even early on, most experts that I read said that the recesson would last at least the year, but unemployment would continue to climb beyond that. Nonetheless, it's important for Republicans to show discontent in order to frame the discussion later on. The question is, Why are they doing it here? Do you really think that if Obama was doing a good job, the recession would be over and employment would be on the way up by now?
The fact and thus, Obama's dilemma is that your can't raise taxes without hurting the economy. The best thing any politician can do right now is nothing. It is less of a risk to allow people to suffer in the short term than jeopardizing the future of generations to come.
All Obama's plans for health care, etc. are good ideas, but now is not the time. The ONLY thing important right now is that our economy get back on track.
Obama is totally winging it. He has thrown all the cards up into the air and hopes to high heaven they come down right.
In the end, it will depend on the goodness of the American people to determine whether the U.S. comes out of this better or worse than we went into it: if we are humble before God and listen to His voice we shall overcome; if not .... I don't want to think about it.
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