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***Patters*** · 07-02-2009, 09:10 AM

Now, some would argue that the reason conservative Republicans are often involved in lurid scandals, despite their "family values," is that they are white. But, I don't think that. I don't think you can generalize about people based on their race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation. I know others in this forum disagree.

So the question is, Why are so many conservatives involved in sordid affairs? Is conservatism often a cover for bad behavior? Are many conservatives mentally ill, suffering split personalities? Are family values just a political axe with no real meaning? Did conservative leaders use family values to lure and bait the ignorant into believing they were superior to others? Or does it have to do with race?

House of Pain: GOP's Class of '94 - Yahoo! News

While it's true that there have been some scandals with Democrats, the difference is that Democrats do not try to legislate family values and do not condemn people for personal bad behavior to the extent of the family values crowd? How do conservatives live with their hypocrisy? Or do they think that the Senate should expel Craig, Ensign, and Vitter, and that Sanford should be impeached in SC?

godef · 07-02-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Now, some would argue that the reason conservative Republicans are often involved in lurid scandals, despite their "family values," is that they are white. But, I don't think that. I don't think you can generalize about people based on their race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation. I know others in this forum disagree.

So the question is, Why are so many conservatives involved in sordid affairs? Is conservatism a cover for bad behavior? Are many conservative mentally ill, suffering split personalities? Are family values just a political axe with no real meaning? Did conservative leaders use family values to lure and bait the ignorant into believing they were superior to others? Or does it have to do with race?

House of Pain: GOP's Class of '94 - Yahoo! News

While it's true that there have been some scandals with Democrats, the difference is that Democrats do not try to legislate family values and do not condemn people for personal bad behavior to the extent of the family values crowd? How do conservatives live with their hypocrisy? Or do they think that the Senate should expel Craig, Ensign, and Vitter, and that Sanford should be impeached in SC?

Yikes! Is this a test of your New Rules? Get ready for the fire works.

***tanked_as_usual*** · 07-02-2009, 09:38 AM

and libbies are so clean!!!! LMFAO

all you have to do is be like Barney Frank, and you will have all the excuses you will ever need

***IcyPatriot*** · 07-02-2009, 09:42 AM

I guess Patters is talking about politcians who are not governors.
In any case where's the science behind this inane thread?
Are politicians more or less prone to cheating vs the natioanl averages?
Some type of intelligence would be expected from a mod who wants to change rules but

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The Associated Press: A look at governors who were embroiled in affairs

- Eliot Spitzer; New York, 2007-2008, Democrat.

- James McGreevey; New Jersey, 2002-2004, Democrat.

- Bob Wise; West Virginia, 2001-2004, Democrat.

- Paul Patton; Kentucky, 1995-2003, Democrat. .

- Kirk Fordice; Mississippi, 1992-2000, Republican.

- Bill Clinton; Arkansas, 1979-1981, 1983-1992 Democrat.

- Earl Long; Louisiana, 1939-1940, 1948-1952, 1956-1960, Democrat.

***Patters*** · 07-02-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

and libbies are so clean!!!! LMFAO

all you have to do is be like Barney Frank, and you will have all the excuses you will ever need

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

I guess Patters is talking about politicians who are not governors.
In any case where's the science behind this inane thread?
Are politicians more or less prone to cheating vs the national averages?
Some type of intelligence would be expected from a mod who wants to change rules but

I think you missed my point. Liberals do not use personal consensual behavior as a litmus test for the quality of a human being. We accept that people make mistakes in their personal lives. We don't pretend to be morally superior, as the Republicans have done.

CrazyDave · 07-02-2009, 09:45 AM

Maybe they realize what a big part the Christian Right plays in getting them elected.
Just a thought.

PatsWSB47 · 07-02-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Now, some would argue that the reason conservative Republicans are often involved in lurid scandals, despite their "family values," is that they are white. But, I don't think that. I don't think you can generalize about people based on their race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation. I know others in this forum disagree.

So the question is, Why are so many conservatives involved in sordid affairs? Is conservatism often a cover for bad behavior? Are many conservatives mentally ill, suffering split personalities? Are family values just a political axe with no real meaning? Did conservative leaders use family values to lure and bait the ignorant into believing they were superior to others? Or does it have to do with race?

House of Pain: GOP's Class of '94 - Yahoo! News

While it's true that there have been some scandals with Democrats, the difference is that Democrats do not try to legislate family values and do not condemn people for personal bad behavior to the extent of the family values crowd? How do conservatives live with their hypocrisy? Or do they think that the Senate should expel Craig, Ensign, and Vitter, and that Sanford should be impeached in SC?

Well I guess if you don't let people know what your stand is on family values then your bad behavior is easier to live with. A cynical take would be that democrats know they can't live up to them so they shut up expecting that all will be forgiven when they get caught.

Democrat: Hey I cheated but that's ok. I never said cheating was bad so why do I need forgivness?

Pundits: It's your private life and it should have nothing to do with your job performance.

Republican: Hey I cheated even though I said cheating was bad. I shouldn't have cheated because I still think it's bad. Can you forgive me?

Pundits: No

Look it. The behavior seems worse because they prviously spoke out aginst it and even criticised others who have done it. I think in fact that cheating is cheating no matter what your public stand on it is. It creates a media circus as well and does affect job performance.

***IcyPatriot*** · 07-02-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Patters

I think you missed my point. Liberals do not use personal consensual behavior as a litmus test for the quality of a human being. We accept that people make mistakes in their personal lives. We don't pretend to be morally superior, as the Republicans have done.

The republican party panders to the religious. But if their cheating statistics are below the averages then that claim may not be false. So ... where are the statistics on it. I think moral superiority is a bunch of crap as much as democrats intellectual superiority is a bunch of crap. To this day I don't understand why one party is better than the other ... but some still try to prove it. Anyone who supports one party over the other is a fool IMO.

***Harry Boy*** · 07-02-2009, 10:43 AM

Softly And Tenderly Jesus Is Calling
Calling, Oh Sinner Come Home

Democrat "Shirley, will you let me mount you"
Republican "Oh Lord that feels good"
Mormon "lets go girls we're gonna take a shower"
Muslim "God willing I will screw them all"
Clinton "grab it or I'll kill your friggin cat"
Michael Jackson "where's my monkey"
Elizabeth Taylor "it goes in here Michael"
Barbara Box "call me senator"
Pelosi "where's my teeth"
YES WE CAN

***Patters*** · 07-02-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

Softly And Tenderly Jesus Is Calling
Calling, Oh Sinner Come Home

Democrat "Shirley, will you let me mount you"
Republican "Oh Lord that feels good"
Mormon "lets go girls we're gonna take a shower"
Muslim "God willing I will screw them all"
Clinton "grab it or I'll kill your friggin cat"
Michael Jackson "where's my monkey"
Elizabeth Taylor "it goes in here Michael"
Barbara Boxer "call me senator"
Pelosi "where's my teeth"
YES WE CAN

Harry, you add so much to this forum. Exactly what, I don't know. But, you add a lot of it!