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***NEPatriot*** · 06-22-2009, 01:33 PM

WashingtonWatch.com - H.R. 2159, The Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009

H.R. 2159, The Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009

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grant the Attorney General the authority to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of a federal firearms and explosives license to any individual if the Attorney General: (1) determines that such individual has been engaged in or has provided material support or resources for terrorist activities; and (2) has a reasonable belief that such individual may use a firearm or explosive in connection with terrorism. Allows any individual whose firearm or explosives license application has been been denied to bring legal action challenging the denial.

Permits the Attorney General to withhold information in firearms and explosives license denial revocation suits if the Attorney General determines that the disclosure of such information would likely compromise national security

Authorizes the Attorney General to revoke firearms and explosives licenses and permits held by individuals determined to be engaged in terrorism.

Our 2nd amenmend is violated in the name 'terrorists'.

***Patters*** · 06-22-2009, 01:37 PM

It seems odd to oppose this. Are you one of those who say we should lock up suspected terrorist without trial at Gitmo, but we should not deprive suspected terrorists of their guns? Bizarre.

***NEPatriot*** · 06-22-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

It seems odd to oppose this. Are you one of those who say we should lock up suspected terrorist without trial at Gitmo, but we should not deprive suspected terrorists of their guns? Bizarre.

Here is a problem. The bad guys can get the guns WITHOUT the license. If you are a terrorist and the fed catchs you, you are done whether you have a gun or not.

My question is why the democrats and Obama want to have a legislature to take a gun from 'terrorists' when they have already done it?

When Obama and democrats propose this legislature, who is their main target? Lawful citizens. Why are they worried about us having the guns?

The keyword here is 'determine'. Does Obama's attorney generals need to 'prove' that you are a 'terrorist' before taking your gun away? How do they 'determine' that you are a terrorist?

What is their definition of 'terrorist'? A protesting is considered as a 'low form of terrorist'. Does it justify for Obama to take your gun away from you when you 'protest'?

***DarrylS*** · 06-22-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPatriot

Here is a problem. The bad guys can get the guns WITHOUT the license. If you are a terrorist and the fed catchs you, you are done whether you have a gun or not.

My question is why the democrats and Obama want to have a legislature to take a gun from 'terrorists' when they have already done it?

When Obama and democrats propose this legislature, who is their main target? Lawful citizens. Why are they worried about us having the guns?

The keyword here is 'determine'. Does Obama's attorney generals need to 'prove' that you are a 'terrorist' before taking your gun away? How do they 'determine' that you are a terrorist?

What is their definition of 'terrorist'? A protesting is considered as a 'low form of terrorist'. Does it justify for Obama to take your gun away from you when you 'protest'?

Interesting comments from a poster who often prides himself on incoherency and incomplete sentences... must be had to turn it off and turn it on.

When freedom is outlawed only outlaws will be free....

Holy Diver · 06-22-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPatriot

Here is a problem. The bad guys can get the guns WITHOUT the license. If you are a terrorist and the fed catchs you, you are done whether you have a gun or not.

My question is why the democrats and Obama want to have a legislature to take a gun from 'terrorists' when they have already done it?

When Obama and democrats propose this legislature, who is their main target? Lawful citizens. Why are they worried about us having the guns?

The keyword here is 'determine'. Does Obama's attorney generals need to 'prove' that you are a 'terrorist' before taking your gun away? How do they 'determine' that you are a terrorist?

What is their definition of 'terrorist'? A protesting is considered as a 'low form of terrorist'. Does it justify for Obama to take your gun away from you when you 'protest'?

definition of a terrorist is someone who posts fear DAILY on political message boards.

you know that guy who shot police officers in PA a few months ago, validate himself with views of gun control that are similar to this post?

wistahpatsfan · 06-22-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPatriot

Here is a problem. The bad guys can get the guns WITHOUT the license. If you are a terrorist and the fed catchs you, you are done whether you have a gun or not.

My question is why the democrats and Obama want to have a legislature to take a gun from 'terrorists' when they have already done it?

When Obama and democrats propose this legislature, who is their main target? Lawful citizens. Why are they worried about us having the guns?

The keyword here is 'determine'. Does Obama's attorney generals need to 'prove' that you are a 'terrorist' before taking your gun away? How do they 'determine' that you are a terrorist?

What is their definition of 'terrorist'? A protesting is considered as a 'low form of terrorist'. Does it justify for Obama to take your gun away from you when you 'protest'?

There something wrongs with you.

***NEPatriot*** · 06-22-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

There something wrongs with you.

Why can you NOT tell everybody about it if you are 'capable' of doing so? I'm waiting.

wistahpatsfan · 06-22-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPatriot

Why can you NOT tell everybody about it if you are 'capable' of doing so? I'm waiting.

The only one who understands your "points" is you, and that's even doubtful.

Everyone else is making fun of you. It's time to finish coloring your homework assignments and get to bed. You have school tomorrow.

alvinnf · 06-22-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

The only one who understands your "points" is you, and that's even doubtful.

Everyone else is making fun of you. It's time to finish coloring your homework assignments and get to bed. You have school tomorrow.

One of the largest campaign backers for Barry Obama are the anti-gun groups. There has been allot of talk about them taxing the hell out of bullets to make them less accessible. From the second he took office arms and bullets have been flying off the shelves. So people either see the apocolypse coming or the writing on the wall. I think catagorizing individuals as terrorists is just another way to take guns out of peoples hands, whomevers hands they are good or bad. I think thats his point, I think allot of times you can read between the lines to understand what someone is saying or doing. Then other times you choose not to pay attention because you dont like someone or care, thats always your perogitive.

***NEPatriot*** · 06-23-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

The only one who understands your "points" is you, and that's even doubtful.

Everyone else is making fun of you. It's time to finish coloring your homework assignments and get to bed. You have school tomorrow.

Why do you need a legislature to take away the gun from a terrorist? Why is Obama interested in a terrorist's gun instead of him?

Do you know that a 'terrorist' doesn't have a gun 'license'?

What is Obama's definition of being a 'terrorist'?

Please tell Obama to stop treating his supporters like morons.