Harry Boy

__________________
Harry Boy (Genius)

In The Absence Of Law And Order Society Will Surely Destroy Itself

NEPatriot

It's very noble for you to 'protect' gay rights. In order for you to do it, you have to UNDERSTAND how gay rights are 'violated'. Yes?


How do you CLAIM that gay rights are violated when they can vote and have the same BILL of rights as you?

Are your rights violated when you don't have a 'marriage license' because you are a single woman? No?

What do you have to do to get it? Marry to a 'man' because it's the 'requirement'? Yes?

Why are Patter's rights violated when he doesn't meet this requirement?

Why don't you answer my questions this time instead of spinning your way out of them?

mack207

As for what part of the Constitution backs up my stance on this issue, please see a little thing called the 14th Amendment (also known as the Equal Protection Clause):

So there you go. A partial explanation of privileges given to straight couples via federally endorsed marriage and a part of the US Constitution that declares that it is unconstitutional to deny equal rights to American citizens.

Where's your constitutional argument?

Patters

Discrimination against gays is legal in many parts of the country. That means you can deny someone a job or an apartment because they are gay. There are many other examples of discrimination as well.

It's not everyone's right, but that's changing. Just as interracial marriage was considered unnatural and was illegal in many states, the same is true for gays. But, as gays win more acceptance, they will win more rights. Marriage rights (which I have) provides certain protections in terms of estate and hospital visitation rights, and additional protection for couples with kids, and many gay couples have children.

The rules are changing. Social conservatives rarely win battles against social liberals. That has been true pretty much since the founding of our nation.

Especially, now that we're married.

You don't have to accept it, but it's important that the legal institutions do to protect my rights with regard to my estate, health care, and benefits.

Actually, I think the likes of you have become second class citizens because your views are outdated and have less and less relevance with the passing of time. But, I'm glad you called me a second class citizen. That attitude underscores the need for gay activism, to prevent pushback from bigots.

The rule is old and changing. That's the nature of modern society. Many rules have been revised or changed over the years.

I expect equal rights, and will continue to do my part to support that struggle. In the last 40 years, gays have made great strides in wiping out small mindedness and intolerance, but I see there's still work to do.

I think today, gay is considered more normal than bigotry and intolerance.

I have great respect for my fellow citizen, but do not favor special rights (such as marriage) for straight people. Why there are people like you who think you're entitled to special rights that gay people can't have is simply a carryover from 19th century thinking.

I support equal rights for all. You don't.

IcyPatriot

What he said ......

NEPatriot

If you read my stuffs here long enough, you SHOULD REALIZE that It was me WHO start all 'anti-Obama' threads and DEFEND all my posts on my own. In fact, I have more 'anti-Obama' threads than ALL of the coversatives in this forum COMBINE.

In the case of gay marriage, I am the ONLY ONE who have ARGUED with you and your supporters because you SCARED the living crap out of them with your 'US constitution' BOMB.

I am here to REPRESENT my point of view and I'm not going to stop doing it because of my 'fellow citizens'.

Please remember that when you and your supporters try to EXECUTE me here, I am the ONLY ONE who defend myself and ATTACK you.

With that said, what makes you think that I need the support and sympathy of conservatives to do what I want in this forum?