Patters

If so, and looking at Massachusetts, or virtually any other state, why would you want the states to have more power than the feds? They are run by inept, small time, small minded insiders for the most part, who no one normally pays a lot of attention to, certainly not the type of attention the media gives a President.

Most recently in New York, the Republicans took control of the State Senate by wooing two corrupt Democrats (one under investigation for stabbing his girlfriend with a piece of glass; earlier this year, the Republicans called for him to resign). Well, the Democrats retaliated by locking the Senate chamber doors so no one could get in. Apparently, under the NY Constitution, you can only conduct official business in the Senate chambers. Meanwhile, the Democrats wooed one of the crooks back over to their side, making the Senate tied. Now, the Republicans are arguing that their new Democratic member holds two votes because of their interpretation of the New York State Constitution. Meanwhile, nothing is getting done. It's a real comedy.

Real World

So you are pointing at two liberal states, as a reason why the fed should have more control over all of them. Nice. Have you been paying attention to the inept job the fed is doing, in running the country? I guess not. How many trillions is the fed in debt? Maybe people need to vote out incumbents, when the job performance of the people in charge, sucks. It would probably do wonders here, that's for sure.

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Patters

Oh, it's easy to point out conservative states, too. I'm just more knowledgeable about these two states. But, Arizona, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, and probably every other state have had plenty of scandals. This one is unusual because it involves both parties.

As far as what the fed is doing, so far what I see is that the economy has stabilized, but we're certainly not out of the woods yet.

tanked_as_usual

the people running the fed are every bit as corrupt and inept as the ones running the states...........

Real World

What planet have you been living on all your life? Why on Earth would people want to give more control to the fed? I want less gubmit control on all levels, since they do such a piss poor job as is, yet here you are wanting to give more.

The economy has stabilized? Where?

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IcyPatriot

Politics is at a grade school level behavior by nature.
Many politicians were the nerds and goobers when they were younger.
They hated the status quo growing up ... now they get their revenge.

patsfan13

Manyof us want both the feds and the locals to have far less pwoer and stay out of our business.

The more money government has the more corruption, not very complicated at all.


Problem is Patters is that libs assume gov should be sticking their noses in everyone's business. Doesn't have to be that way. Keep power with the individual not those who crave power over others.

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Patters

Actually, I think the government does a pretty good job with the military, the courts, the interstate highway system, giving us clean water and safe food, and many other things. They carry far less debt than the private enterprise or individuals, and they actually have a means of paying it back unlike many big companies and individuals. Are they perfect? No, but neither is private enterprise. People are people.

Banks are returning TARP money, unemployment is slowing, parts of the housing market are improving, the stock market is improving, etc.

Real World

What planet do you live on? I think it's time to invest in a TV, or some basic cable. Maybe we could pass a virtual cup around the forum, for donations.

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tanked_as_usual

talk about being stoned........they don't do 'pretty good' with anything.......they have an open check book and hey still manage to screw things up.......the only reason the military is what it is is because private industry builds all their weapons......the courts? are you *****ting me?

the interstate highway system? tell that to the 13 people who died on the I35 bridge in MN

you have obviously drank the kool-aid and are drunk from it