U.S. gives Flight 93 site landowners one week to sell - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***tanked_as_usual*** · 06-17-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

Honestly....thats some funny $h!t...

along those same lines, this investigation into 9-11, the comission etc....is pretty much complete Bull$h!t...why would we create a memorial to something that we have yet to full get closure on? What if Cheney DID give the oreders to shoot it down?

This makes no sense.

naaahhhh......what's funny is your 'what if's'

wistahpatsfan · 06-17-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

I think the idea of profiting from a national tragedy is abhorrent.

If they won't sell for what the land was worth on September 10th, then screw 'em.

I agree. I think a memorial to Fl 93 should be integrated into the bigger 9/11 Memorial in NYC or DC. No one will go to western PA to visit this site. Within 20 years, there will be a Walmart there.

The gov't has no right to confiscate land for a memorial. Memorials are nice, but they're not needed for the government to function or for people to survive.

mcgraw_wv · 06-17-2009, 02:31 PM

If the Government decided tomorrow to build a 100 billion FBI HQ next to my property, my home value just went through the roof...

Those people who want their land, should not have to sell at any price... period.

Perhaps they wanted to leave this land to their kids, perhaps their ancestors settled that land 100 years ago...

Personal Property is what makes this land great. If the government just take it away from you, what's the point of Personal Property, all that means is it's all on loan, and they can call it in and force you to trade it for paper slips they print off.

Patsfanin Philly · 06-17-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mcgraw_wv

If the Government decided tomorrow to build a 100 billion FBI HQ next to my property, my home value just went through the roof...

Those people who want their land, should not have to sell at any price... period.

Perhaps they wanted to leave this land to their kids, perhaps their ancestors settled that land 100 years ago...

Personal Property is what makes this land great. If the government just take it away from you, what's the point of Personal Property, all that means is it's all on loan, and they can call it in and force you to trade it for paper slips they print off.

Amen. Unfortunately the Supreme Court ruled (wrongly) in Kelo v New London
KELO V. NEW LONDON
effectively eviscerating private property vis a vis the takings clause..

scout · 06-17-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcgraw_wv

If the Government decided tomorrow to build a 100 billion FBI HQ next to my property, my home value just went through the roof...

Those people who want their land, should not have to sell at any price... period.

Perhaps they wanted to leave this land to their kids, perhaps their ancestors settled that land 100 years ago...

Personal Property is what makes this land great. If the government just take it away from you, what's the point of Personal Property, all that means is it's all on loan, and they can call it in and force you to trade it for paper slips they print off.

What's worse is eminent domain. 60 Minutes had a show where one business owner was being booted so that another business could take over his property, per order Gov. There was also a community where the houses were condemned (nice properties) and were to be replaced by someone's pipe dream (shopping center/condo?).

scout · 06-17-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

naaahhhh......what's funny is your 'what if's'

"What if Cheney DID give the order to shoot it down".
What bewilders me, Tanked thinking that the Gov. would never cover up shooting an airliner down which was probably headed for the White House or Tank thinking that Cheney would never give the order.
Reading the documentation on our air defense system as it related to 9/11 that day, I'm somewhat leaning toward the plane not being shot down. The determining factor was the total incompetency of the air defense explaining any type of timeline. I do believe they would take a fall if told to do so by the higher ups, but not in that embarrassing nature. Surely, they could have arranged some alibis.
Would our government cover it up? History tells us many times over that the answer is yes. Would Cheney give the order? LMFAO!