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Old 06-12-2009, 06:49 PM   #21
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Your point being?
.....that the country really HAS changed from Tom Jefferson knew and thought was right.

Hell, black folk have gotten so "uppity" today that there's one sleeping in his old bedroom.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:50 PM   #22
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But isn't that what the constitution was originally designed for? To adapt and move with our country - so that it adapts as we adapt? If not, then what are amendments for?

I can agree that our constitutions sh1t on every day - but I don't think a gay guy wanting gay marriage is such.

That is why provisions were made for people to AMEND the constitution not for the judiciary to assume a position to be superior to the other branches of government and create law...
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:51 PM   #23
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The law was also clear that slaves were property, they law was wrong then too. were property

Exactly my point to Real World that Thomas Jefferson's opinion of our Government today is not exactly the highest pinnacle of opinions that I would worry about.

Times change. The nation changes.
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But TJ was the "father of the constitution" RW, i think his opinion carries more wieght [sic].
Thomas Jefferson was our ambassador in France, having replaced Benjamin Franklin, while the 1787 US Constitution was being written. Any one awake in civics class knows James Madison is termed "the father of our Constitution."

Get off the boards and read a book. I recommend Catherine Drinker Bowen's _Miracle in Philadelphia_. Great read.
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But how could a "living" Constitution be dead?

King Claudius: "All that lives must die / Passing through nature to eternity."
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Jesus, I wish I'd finished grammar school, I love the way you guys talk.
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.....that the country really HAS changed from Tom Jefferson knew and thought was right.

Hell, black folk have gotten so "uppity" today that there's one sleeping in his old bedroom.
Really? The country's changed in 200+ years? Wow. Why didn't anyone tell me?

We're talking about the Constitution, and it's interpretation.
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Exactly my point to Real World that Thomas Jefferson's opinion of our Government today is not exactly the highest pinnacle of opinions that I would worry about.

Times change. The nation changes.
You should be telling that to Sdaniels who thinks Jefferson's opinion is a "nuff said".
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Thomas Jefferson was our ambassador in France, having replaced Benjamin Franklin, while the 1787 US Constitution was being written. Any one awake in civics class knows James Madison is termed "the father of our Constitution."

Get off the boards and read a book. I recommend Catherine Drinker Bowen's _Miracle in Philadelphia_. Great read.
I'm going to check that out.
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Scalia is an a-hole.
Many of the founding fathers owned slaves.
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