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Old 06-11-2009, 09:07 AM   #21
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I love the people who say her teenage daughter is fair game cuz she was a prop. I saw Obama on stage with his 2 daughters "talking to daddy" at the convention, so does that make them a prop too? Kids are kids, and they should be left out of the fray. Furthermore, it's one thing to talk about one's child, or criticize an aspect of her life, but to say she got knocked up like Letterman did, is discipable. People can say anything they want. It's a free country. The fact that you can say anything you want, doesn't mean you should.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:13 AM   #22
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I love the people who say her teenage daughter is fair game cuz she was a prop. I saw Obama on stage with his 2 daughters "talking to daddy" at the convention, so does that make them a prop too? Kids are kids, and they should be left out of the fray. Furthermore, it's one thing to talk about one's child, or criticize an aspect of her life, but to say she got knocked up like Letterman did, is discipable. People can say anything they want. It's a free country. The fact that you can say anything you want, doesn't mean you should.
I agree with you. I think the media attention on candidates families keeps the best Americans from running for office, especially the highest ones. That's one of the reasons that I have very little respect for politicians who fail to keep the media away from their kids. Palin and Obama both used their kids as props. If we're keeping score, though, Palin and her family were the worst "offenders" in this area I have ever seen. And it continues still.

YouTube - Bristol Palin Talks Teen Pregnancy and Contraception
YouTube - Introducing Baby Tripp ! | Bristol & Sarah Palin ON THE RECORD | Greta | FOX NEWS

Why Bristol went on Greta is beyond me. And notice how Grandma sticks her head into the interview "by surprise" as if she literally can't control herself from being in the spotlight. Comparing Bristol to Obama's kids (I don't even know their names off the top of my head) is apples and oranges, IMO.
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I love the people who say her teenage daughter is fair game cuz she was a prop. I saw Obama on stage with his 2 daughters "talking to daddy" at the convention, so does that make them a prop too? Kids are kids, and they should be left out of the fray. Furthermore, it's one thing to talk about one's child, or criticize an aspect of her life, but to say she got knocked up like Letterman did, is discipable. People can say anything they want. It's a free country. The fact that you can say anything you want, doesn't mean you should.
I do not disagree, and there is need for clarification.. there was a comparison as to why Chelsea was not criticized as much as Bristol.. first of all Bill never proposed to be a moral vanguard and she faded into the limelight.. Sarah bills herself as a moral lightning rod and put her daughter out there and left her there as a prop for her campaign.. Sarah has not faded into the woodwork.. she and mom put themselves out there all the time.

The kids should be off limits.. none of this is justified
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I agree with you. I think the media attention on candidates families keeps the best Americans from running for office, especially the highest ones. That's one of the reasons that I have very little respect for politicians who fail to keep the media away from their kids. Palin and Obama both used their kids as props. If we're keeping score, though, Palin and her family were the worst "offenders" in this area I have ever seen. And it continues still.

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Why Bristol went on Greta is beyond me. And notice how Grandma sticks her head into the interview "by surprise" as if she literally can't control herself from being in the spotlight. Comparing Bristol to Obama's kids (I don't even know their names off the top of my head) is apples and oranges, IMO.
How about she went on to tell her story so others won't find themselves in the same situation in their lives? Sure it keeps her in the spotlight and opens her up to criticism and attacks but that doesn't mean she deserves them……not even if you challenge her motives. This kind of hurtful demeaning attacks by Letterman exposes him as a partisan hack that puts his politics above civility. He faked an apology and it fell way short. He acted like he was sorry it wasn't funny not that he was sorry he was hurtful. He's very talented but he's become just another idiot with an agenda and I won't watch him anymore.
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How about she went on to tell her story so others won't find themselves in the same situation in their lives? Sure it keeps her in the spotlight and opens her up to criticism and attacks but that doesn't mean she deserves them……not even if you challenge her motives. This kind of hurtful demeaning attacks by Letterman exposes him as a partisan hack that puts his politics above civility. He faked an apology and it fell way short. He acted like he was sorry it wasn't funny not that he was sorry he was hurtful. He's very talented but he's become just another idiot with an agenda and I won't watch him anymore.
I agree about Letterman. I think I've seen him maybe 5 times in my life.

I don't really care why she went on. She doesn't seem too swift to me, but she doesn't need to impress me. If I were giving her advice (that is, if I were her father), I'd tell her to get out of politics and the media, get back to school, and take care of your child. I wonder why she did those interviews. It's gonna be real hard for her to have a life resembling what she hoped for. I hope she does well because she seems like a nice kid who just happens to have a douchebag for a mother. BTW, gotta laugh when anyone calls a pregnancy a "mistake" (Ooops! I accidentally had unsafe sex and now I'm pregnant somehow!).
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BTW, gotta laugh when anyone calls a pregnancy a "mistake" (Ooops! I accidentally had unsafe sex and now I'm pregnant somehow!).
Reminds me of this quote, thought it was Bobby Burns.. but does not come up..

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His "joke" was dispicable. Make fun of politicians all you want, but their children should be left alone.
I agree. Evidently, he made an apology on his show last night. Palin, through her spokesperson declined to accept the apology. I understand why, and I probably would have done the same if I were in her situation.

He should just go in another direction. His show was groundbreaking and hilarious in the 1980's, but he has gotten comfortable and lazy doing repetitve and tired schtick since then.
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I agree. Evidently, he made an apology on his show last night. Palin, through her spokesperson declined to accept the apology. I understand why, and I probably would have done the same if I were in her situation.

He should just go in another direction. His show was groundbreaking and hilarious in the 1980's, but he has gotten comfortable and lazy doing repetitve and tired schtick since then.
I saw it. His so called apology went something like this: "Do I regret telling the joke? I think probably I do. I've regretted thousands of jokes I've told on the air (he was attempting to get a laugh and got some)".

So he didn't say he was sorry to Palin for saying she was in New York to shop for slutty stewardess cloths. He didn't say he was sorry for Bristol or Willow (who was the daughter at the game) at all. He even suggested that it was kind of ok because Bristol was target and she was 18 after all (as if raping an 18 year old or calling an 18 year old promiscuous is ok) He did go on to say that he wouldn't advocate raping or having sex with a minor like he was now being some kind of moral hero. Then he invited them in his show. I don't blame Palin for not accepting that because it was not an apology in any way shape or form as far as I'm concerned.
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He never said sorry. Only that he "regrets" making the joke. He only regrets it cuz people have responded so negatively to it. Check out how condescending he is.

BTW, she was in NY with her 14 year old daughter.


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