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Old 06-08-2009, 09:22 AM   #1
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The Iranian election campaign is really quite interesting. The reformer, Moussavi, has been leading an aggressive campaign, and his wife has played a major role. It's created an interesting dynamic, and there's a good chance that at Iran, like the United States, will boot conservative Ahmadinejad. I wonder if Obama's speech, though largely blocked in Iran, was timed to influence the election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/wo...st/08iran.html
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:26 AM   #2
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... I wonder if Obama's speech, though largely blocked in Iran, was timed to influence the election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/wo...st/08iran.html
Of course it was! Bush did the same thing.
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If they do elect a new Iranian President who goes against our interests, maybe we'll topple their leader like we did a few decades ago, which is what made previously pro-American Iran turn against us in the first place.
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Not much confidence in their "democratic process", the power lies with those who count the votes.. and that is usually done by the people in power.

OTOH fairly confident we have a lot of operatives over there doing their best to level the playing field.
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Not much confidence in their "democratic process", the power lies with those who count the votes.. and that is usually done by the people in power.

OTOH fairly confident we have a lot of operatives over there doing their best to level the playing field.
Actually, they seem to have a fairly democratic process.

Iran's 'Macaca' Moment? Ahmadinejad's Rivals Circulate Video Highlighting His Bizarre "Light" Claim

And we just saw Hezbollah graciously concede in Lebanon, so perhaps the propaganda we've been fed is not completely accurate.
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Actually, they seem to have a fairly democratic process.

Iran's 'Macaca' Moment? Ahmadinejad's Rivals Circulate Video Highlighting His Bizarre "Light" Claim

And we just saw Hezbollah graciously concede in Lebanon, so perhaps the propaganda we've been fed is not completely accurate.

I hope that's the case. Despite all the negative there ARE some good things going on over there though they don't get much press.
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Iran is gradually moving toward a more western ideology. Its the lure of rock'n'roll, blue jeans and hollywood. Its a crazy statistic, like 70% of the country is under the age of 30.

certainly will be in interesting election.

All those persians in the know, know that the president of Iran, isn't its leader.

Iran's supreme religious leader is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
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If there is a change it won't be due to obamamania :

Poll: Few Iranians see US favorably, despite Obama

"A rare poll of Iranians says that few of them have favorable opinions of the United States, a view that hasn't changed much from before the election of President Barack Obama.

The survey, taken last month, shows that 29 percent of Iranians view the U.S. positively. In February 2008, a similar poll of Iranians showed 34 percent with favorable views of the U.S. "
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Iran race gets bitter as election looms
Reformists form human chain in Tehran; Ahmadinejad's supporters rally


Iran race gets bitter as election looms - Iran- msnbc.com


TEHRAN, Iran - Supporters of Iran's main pro-reform presidential candidate formed a human chain that stretched nearly the entire length of Tehran on Monday in their biggest display of political might — sending a powerful challenge to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's backers as both sides poured into the streets in the final days of the race.

The showdown atmosphere reflects the increasingly bitter tone between Ahmadinejad and his main rival, Mir Hossein Mousavi, in the campaign blitz before Friday's vote. Both have traded recriminations and engaged in mudslinging as intense as any bare-knuckle American campaign and — in the process — have turned the election into a display of Iran's deep political divides.



MOST important part of the article:

Ahmadinejad's supporters applaud his firebrand style that include questions over the Holocaust and his uncompromising defense of Iran's nuclear program. Mousavi's backers — including many young voters — believe Iran's international standing is being undermined and a more flexible approach is needed with critical issues at stake such as possible talks with Washington.

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If there is a change it won't be due to obamamania :

Poll: Few Iranians see US favorably, despite Obama

"A rare poll of Iranians says that few of them have favorable opinions of the United States, a view that hasn't changed much from before the election of President Barack Obama.

The survey, taken last month, shows that 29 percent of Iranians view the U.S. positively. In February 2008, a similar poll of Iranians showed 34 percent with favorable views of the U.S. "


an interesting line from the last part of the article I posted....

"There are no credible political polls in Iran, but both campaigns predict what a very tight race."
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