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Crime is related to poverty, not race. Liberals want to address poverty, but conservatives balk at the expenditures. Liberals also want to increase spending on education, but there again conservatives are reluctant to spend more money.
State, what do you think should be done to PREVENT such outbreaks. Also, if you're afraid of a handful of random acts of violence, you probably can't go anywhere. Bad things can happen any place at any time, but the odds are overwhelming that nothing bad will happen wherever you are.
Where's the money going to come from, Patters?
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Taxes and budget cuts. It's all part of running a nation. It's not cheap, but hopefully the benefits of living in this great country are worth the price. My view of taxes is that they are tool for regulating the economy and improving the quality of our lives. There is no one way taxes should ever be applied. Our founders were wise to leave the Constitution so vague on this matter. There may be a time for tax cuts and a flat tax, but right now we need to have a progressive income tax so that we can improve our quality of life, and part of that involves crime reduction. If we invested properly, we could probably over time reduce spending on prisons and police and increase it on preventative programs.
Hillsboro OR is not. It's a suburb of Portland where I grew up and still live, no poverty to speak of. Yet times are changing.
Last week in Hillsboro there were three major crimes reported.
1. A major Mexican backed drug and racketering ring was raided less then a mile from my house, largest in Oregon history.
2. A father took his two young boys for a walk in the park and then proceeded to shoot and kill both of them before turning the gun on himself.
3. A 9 month pregnant 21 year old was killed by a lady she met through Craigs list when she was looking for baby clothes.
She was clubed to death and then her fetus was cut form her dead body and the lady then called 911 saying she had just had a baby, the baby of
course also died.
That's interesting, how this guy focuses on the city I work in, and the city right up the road from me which I have visited numerous times over the years. When I first moved to DC in 1985, within the first year of my arrival there was indeed a murder one night, right next to my building.
Interestingly I lived for a few months prior to that across the Anacostia River, which if you know this area makes you go "Huh?" Anacostia is Washingtonian for "Harlem".
And while there are probably plenty of parts of Harlem that doen't comport with the televised and word-of-mouth reputation of Harlem, and while there was a literary movement of great import born in Harlem, you still expect a harder time in Harlem than you do in some trendier area (Upper West Side? Do I have that right?)
Well, I moved from Anacostia, which was supposed to be the Heart of D.C. Darkness, to a trendier area in NorthWest. (We also delineate liveability by quadrant: Southeast is no good. Northwest is very good.) Like I say, within a couple months, they found a murder victim in the alley next to the building.
Now, that's just a somewhat disturbing part of life in the cities. Violent crime waxes and wanes. It usually shoots up along with unemployment and poverty, so for the time being, if you're of a mind to be paranoid, I'd be moreso.
As to the barbarians-at-the-gates underlying premise (or perhaps more accurately barbarians-within-the-gates,) fail. I've lived in cities or close-in suburbs my entire post-college life, and the fantasies spun by those in the exurbs capture only the phenomenon of violent crimes which have always been part of urban life.
Cities are fun for young people, but when they marry, settle down, and raise a family they want low crime and don't want to risk property devaluation when the wrong people start moving into the brownstones, which can happen very quickly.
Middle class flight out of Detroit was amazing. I was born in the late 1960s and lived there as an infant just after the horrible riots. That initiated what was then called White Flight. Usually it looks like whites, but the middle class blacks want to escape the same variables. It's a class thing.
It is also a fear of the Underclass, which is undeniably disproportionately black. Sorry for noticing what's so obvious if not PC.
But Section 8 is bringing the chaos into the suburbs. Fuzzy Navel, what's an exurb?
Violent traits are hereditary. Mr. Darwin doesn't agree with your sentiments, Charlie Patters.
I think we'd need to see studies showing who has this gene. Also, it would be interesting to see if gun-loving right wingers and those who favor war and violence to solve problems have this gene. We'd also need to factor in cultural, economic, educational and other matters. So, the Brown study sounds a little interesting, but I can't find anything that says after various factors are compensated for, blacks are more likely to have the warrior gene. Maybe you're reading your raced-based argument into the article?
Also, we'd need to understand how that gene works. There are many genes -- such as those that affect addiction or diabetes -- that are turned on by environmental factors.
I remember walking around the city on forays from West Point in the 1980s, stepping on crack vials lying on the ground.
I think violent crime is a big problem. That's one of the reasons I usu. carry a concealed revolver/semiauto pistol, even in states where it's not legal for me to do so, such as NY.
He lead but there was a convergence of factors.. economic, business, increased federal funding for law enforcement, community policing, recognition that gangs did exist and were not fraternal organizations of good will, increased prosecution etc..
To anoint Guiliani as the person who saved New York is wrong.. he facilitated it, but not all on him.
“We like to say that dependability is more important than ability,” Bill Belichickism....
An exurb is an outer suburb rather than an inner suburb, and where you draw the line sort of depends who you are.
I would maybe talk about "moving out to the exurbs" to indicate, say, 20 miles out from the DC line, whereas I'm now more like 5-7 (?) miles out and use to be closer than that.
I'm sure if you live in Herndon or Chantilly (as I also use to at some point) you would talk about Manassas as an exurb. That's around 30 miles out, hour and a half on a good day. People come here to work from West Virginia too, daily commute.