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Old 05-15-2009, 02:42 PM   #11
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I'm not blaming Clinton - I am not against torture. I just want to make sure the crazy Liberals get it right and realize this is not a Bush thing nor a Republican thing. Sending people to countries that torture is as bad as, more likely worse, than doing it ourselves as their techniques are likely far worse.

If anyone is indicted - and I don't think anyone should be - then Clinton should be looked at equally.
To be honest, if we tortured people under Clinton I'm having a real hard time coming up with a reason why he shouldn't be. H.W., too. The only thing I can come up with is the scope.
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To be honest, if we tortured people under Clinton I'm having a real hard time coming up with a reason why he shouldn't be. H.W., too. The only thing I can come up with is the scope.
Fine, I just want consistency. Personally I am consistent in favoring torture so I'm good
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As much as I would like to see Cheney suffer a lot of pain.. or rot in Leavenworth... it is time to move on, learn from our mistakes and make sure that our government never sanctions torture again.. getting real tired of a all these stuff shirts on the media yakking about how it is or is not torture..
We can't move on until we Waterboard Pelosi to get the truth out of her. Step up to the plate, er . . . Waterboard, Nancy.
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We can't move on until we Waterboard Pelosi to get the truth out of her. Step up to the plate, er . . . Waterboard, Nancy.
You want to torture the speaker of the house? That would make you happy?

Cheney's been out front in the press a lot lately. Looks like he's trying to head-off an indictment. Too bad he'll succeed. Clinton's a scumbag, too. I'm sick and tired of presidents getting away with murder literally without paying for it because "it just isn't in the nation's best interest" or "we should look forward" bull*****.
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As much as I would like to see Cheney suffer a lot of pain.. or rot in Leavenworth... it is time to move on, learn from our mistakes and make sure that our government never sanctions torture again.. getting real tired of a all these stuff shirts on the media yakking about how it is or is not torture..
yeah...we should also just MOVE ON after 9-11, and forget about what happened that day....maybe they should've MOVED ON after Bill Clinton got a BJ in the white house...Maybe we all should MOVE ON after WW2 and the nazis....

The JUdicial branch is 1/3 of our government. if we MOVED ON about things, we would never have laws, or grow as a nation. Try MOVING ON with your children or relationships, watch how well that works for you.

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You want to torture the speaker of the house? That would make you happy?
Absolutely fucking giddy!

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Fine, I just want consistency. Personally I am consistent in favoring torture so I'm good
Was Clinton going on the talk show circuit bargging about how he save the united states by torturing people? I must've missed that.
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To be honest, if we tortured people under Clinton I'm having a real hard time coming up with a reason why he shouldn't be. H.W., too. The only thing I can come up with is the scope.



You may want to look into the degree of rendition under Clinton. IMO we should have held these people ourselves and used EIT rather than turn the terrorist ouver to countries that practice REAL torture.


However I have NO Trouble with how these mass murderers were treated.

It is funny that President who rendition ed people to people to have others torture them, now sees his wife as the SofS....


There will be silence from the left and their lackeys in the MSM about these incidents of torture., This is a partisan witch hunt engaged in for partisan advantage, not to reveal any truth.
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Was Clinton going on the talk show circuit bargging about how he save the united states by torturing people? I must've missed that.


Was the Bush administration trying to use information about rendition of terrorist to countries that practice torture to try to discredit and possibly prosecute Clinton administration officals?

Why should Cheney sit silently and allow these dem hypocrites get away with their slander...


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Pelosi belongs in the same cell with Cheney shes one of the biggest dirtbags in Washington even her own people don't trust her, she's right up there with Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Kerry, and the Clintons they all knew everything the people should DEMAND a full investigation, declassify everything and let the chips fall where they may.

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Panetta to CIA employees: We told Pelosi the truth

CIA Director Leon Panetta just sent a stern message to his employees defending the agency against Speaker Nancy Pelosi's criticisms.

His message: We didn't mislead Congress; stay focused on your job.

Panetta's note was sent to reporters via the CIA press office. Here's the key graph:

"Let me be clear: It is not our policy or practice to mislead Congress. That is against our laws and our values. As the Agency indicated previously in response to Congressional inquiries, our contemporaneous records from September 2002 indicate that CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, describing “the enhanced techniques that had been employed.” Ultimately, it is up to Congress to evaluate all the evidence and reach its own conclusions about what happened."

You'll have to go to Drudge to read this I don't think the NY Times would want you to see it.

Panetta to CIA employees: We told Pelosi the truth - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com
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