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No, it's not from Fox NEWS, NewsMax, not even The Washington Times.... it's from CNN:
Bush-era interrogation may have worked, Obama official says
updated 11:21 p.m. EDT, Tue April 21, 2009
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush-era interrogation techniques that many view as torture may have yielded important information about terrorists, President Obama's national intelligence director said in an internal memo.
"High-value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al Qaeda organization that was attacking this country," Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair said in a memo to personnel.
The memo, obtained by CNN late Tuesday, was sent around the time the administration released several memos from the previous administration detailing the use of terror interrogation techniques such as waterboarding, which simulates drowning.
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No, it's not from Fox NEWS, NewsMax, not even The Washington Times.... it's from CNN:
Bush-era interrogation may have worked, Obama official says
updated 11:21 p.m. EDT, Tue April 21, 2009
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush-era interrogation techniques that many view as torture may have yielded important information about terrorists, President Obama's national intelligence director said in an internal memo.
"High-value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al Qaeda organization that was attacking this country," Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair said in a memo to personnel.
The memo, obtained by CNN late Tuesday, was sent around the time the administration released several memos from the previous administration detailing the use of terror interrogation techniques such as waterboarding, which simulates drowning.
Update: It appears he's been taken to the woodshed since that memo was made public. He's had to change his tune publically............which I'm sure he did completely on his own with absolutely no intimidation from the top
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration's top intelligence official privately told employees last week that "high value information" was obtained in interrogations that included harsh techniques approved by former President George W. Bush.
"A deeper understanding of the al-Qaida network" resulted, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair said in the memo, in which he added, "I like to think I would not have approved those methods in the past." The Associated Press obtained a copy.
Critics of the harsh methods -- waterboarding, face slapping, sleep deprivation and other techniques -- have called them torture. President Barack Obama said Tuesday they showed the United States "losing our moral bearings" and said they would not be used while he is in office. But he did not say whether he believed they worked.
Obama ordered the release of long-secret Bush-era documents on the subject last week, and Blair circulated his memo declaring that useful information was obtained at the same time.
In a public statement released the same day, Blair did not say that interrogations using the techniques had yielded useful information.
As word of the private memo surfaced Tuesday night, a new statement was issued in his name that appeared to be more explicit in one regard and contained something of a hedge on another point.
It said, "The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means."
Update: It appears he's been taken to the woodshed since that memo was made public. He's had to change his tune publically............which I'm sure he did completely on his own with absolutely no intimidation from the top
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration's top intelligence official privately told employees last week that "high value information" was obtained in interrogations that included harsh techniques approved by former President George W. Bush.
"A deeper understanding of the al-Qaida network" resulted, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair said in the memo, in which he added, "I like to think I would not have approved those methods in the past." The Associated Press obtained a copy.
Critics of the harsh methods -- waterboarding, face slapping, sleep deprivation and other techniques -- have called them torture. President Barack Obama said Tuesday they showed the United States "losing our moral bearings" and said they would not be used while he is in office. But he did not say whether he believed they worked.
Obama ordered the release of long-secret Bush-era documents on the subject last week, and Blair circulated his memo declaring that useful information was obtained at the same time.
In a public statement released the same day, Blair did not say that interrogations using the techniques had yielded useful information.
As word of the private memo surfaced Tuesday night, a new statement was issued in his name that appeared to be more explicit in one regard and contained something of a hedge on another point.
It said, "The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means."
Wussification of America.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child." -- Geo Washington lived by this, as did Abraham Lincoln.
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Only it wasn't torture, but I am glad more people weren't killed too...
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Pretty vague stuff - we got good info, a deeper understanding, trust me.
Then of course we should question whether we could have gotten the same info (if we really got anything) without providing a valuable recruiting tool for the enemy.
Any way you slice it it's bad policy. But the sadists love it.
Pretty vague stuff - we got good info, a deeper understanding, trust me.
Then of course we should question whether we could have gotten the same info (if we really got anything) without providing a valuable recruiting tool for the enemy.
Any way you slice it it's bad policy. But the sadists love it.
Bad policy is to thwart attacks on America?
You really have no understanding about this do you?
Of course neither do Obama or Panetta.
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Only it wasn't torture, but I am glad more people weren't killed too...
Oh, I'm not talking about waterboarding. That's kid's stuff. I wish we would do some more effective types of torture...you know...REEEEAL torture! Braveheart stuff. Marquis de Sad-style sick stuff. Iron Maidens and car batteries on the scrotum. Then we could get some really good intel and save even more people.
If true, that sets up an interesting moral dilemma doesn't it? If sometime in the future we capture high level terrorists we think have knowledge of future plots, and they give us nothing with the methods we have available from the field manual, what does the administration do? Do they keep the moral high ground and stick to the tamer but more ethical methods, or do they throw morality and fair treatment of prisoners out the window in favor of harsher methods they know worked in the past, but which break their own standards of conduct?
Obama Intel Chief: "Bush-era interrogation helpful" - CNN
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