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***tanked_as_usual*** · 04-22-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PressCoverage

and yet, you had just got done with this insightful acumen:

Yeah... pot, meet kettle...

Darryl posed a serious counter argument to you, and you summarily ignored it... because you can't deny that all the things he listed never deterred anything...

Spin it any way you like... You applaud torture because it satiates your blood lust for making angry-looking brown people in turbans suffer...

You're no different than the majority of 28 percenters who's foreign policy is "shoot first, ask questions later"... Which, really, is what has gotten us into this whole mess in the first place.

an ignorant Cowboy mentality toward the world's affairs ... THAT's why they hate us... get it yet?

oh, so now instead of 'brown' people, it's 'angry looking brown people in turbans'......... you're the fukcing racist here.....keep trying to spin it

maybe they hate you, but they don't hate me..........and even if they did, it wouldn't stop me from using all means at my disposal to get answers from the person who designed the event that killed thousands of americans

as for your head-up-arse 'cowboy mentality' comment......more generalizations that paint you as a racist

***tanked_as_usual*** · 04-22-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

If you have the sensation of drowning, does it matter if it lasts 10 seconds, 20 seconds or two minutes... never can understand the situational application of constitutional standards... either we live by this document or we become them.

can you point to the portion of the constitution that discusses the treatment of prisoners of war?

atomdomb · 04-23-2009, 07:55 AM

question? was 183 times enough and why stop at waterboarding? there is a ton of other crazy vile horrible stuff we should do to this pig. waterboarding got extremely valuable info that was able to save many american lives but why not turn him over to the israelis? as long as they keep him alive so we can continue to torment him let them have a little fun. i would make sure to keep a team of doctors on hand so if he tried to die they could keep him alive. also, when we finally kill him, and i hope we do, i know a great place to bury this monster. my aunt owns a pig farm. lets wrap his corpse in a pigskin and bury in mud and pig sh1t. according to my in depth studies in the koran this sort of burial may prove problematic when trying to acquire access to the 72 virgins. just a thought. back to my capitalist pig job.

***tanked_as_usual*** · 04-23-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by atomdomb

question? was 183 times enough and why stop at waterboarding? there is a ton of other crazy vile horrible stuff we should do to this pig. waterboarding got extremely valuable info that was able to save many american lives but why not turn him over to the israelis? as long as they keep him alive so we can continue to torment him let them have a little fun. i would make sure to keep a team of doctors on hand so if he tried to die they could keep him alive. also, when we finally kill him, and i hope we do, i know a great place to bury this monster. my aunt owns a pig farm. lets wrap his corpse in a pigskin and bury in mud and pig sh1t. according to my in depth studies in the koran this sort of burial may prove problematic when trying to acquire access to the 72 virgins. just a thought. back to my capitalist pig job.

there are 2 valid sides to this argument..........and it comes down to 'any means necessary' versus 'doing what is right'.........and the notion of the ends justifying the means.........

some people feel the ends always justify the means........some people feel that they sometimes do........some people feel that they never do

I'm in the 'sometimes' category since I believe that there are people out there whose intentions are so bad that you have to be willing to 'cross the line' ......... refusal to do so enables the 'evil'

***apple strudel*** · 04-23-2009, 12:20 PM

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there is a ton of other crazy vile horrible stuff we should do to this pig.

This is wonderfully sadistic. And they say the exact same things about us.

***apple strudel*** · 04-23-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual

there are 2 valid sides to this argument..........and it comes down to 'any means necessary' versus 'doing what is right'.........and the notion of the ends justifying the means.........

some people feel the ends always justify the means........some people feel that they sometimes do........some people feel that they never do

I'm in the 'sometimes' category since I believe that there are people out there whose intentions are so bad that you have to be willing to 'cross the line' ......... refusal to do so enables the 'evil'

It's not an either/or proposition. There are so many other possible solutions. We're not justifying torture, we're justifying forced regression.