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Old 04-17-2009, 12:28 PM   #1
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I've been talking up this guy here since 2007. This is a very exciting time in history.

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Old 04-17-2009, 02:36 PM   #2
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Hydrogen is a much more plausible alternative. I just don't see electric vehicles as being practical. I could be wrong, but the energy you'd need, and the availability of refueling pose big time problems. Maybe in very urban area's, there could be a market for them, but I don't see wide scale usage, certainly anytime soon.
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Hydrogen is a much more plausible alternative. I just don't see electric vehicles as being practical. I could be wrong, but the energy you'd need, and the availability of refueling pose big time problems. Maybe in very urban area's, there could be a market for them, but I don't see wide scale usage, certainly anytime soon.
I'm not being sarcastic, but did you read the link? I found it to be very in depth and an interesting piece.

One of the main points in the article centers around current limitations on range and, precisely, what Better Place is implementing (5 minute replacement stations, dedicated GPS systems with unique info regarding range to replacement stations, etc. in each car).

Keep in mind, however, the range limitations are CURRENT - - battery range development keeps extending every 6-12 months, so it will never be as big an impediment as it is right now.
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That guy is impressive.
I believe, if you took a dozen of Shai Agassi's and an unlimited budget, they would have a solution to our transportation dilemma within five years.
Yes, an unlimited budget. Whatever amount of money that they spend would be recaptured many times over.
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How many nuke and coal power plants will be required to provide all this electricity? How much to upgrade the power grid?
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How many nuke and coal power plants will be required to provide all this electricity? How much to upgrade the power grid?
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"So where does Agassi’s Better Place fit into this electric universe? Because Agassi plans to buy only “clean” electricity, from wind and solar farms, Better Place customers will be, in theory, producing nearly zero emissions."
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ok how many windmills, and solar panels?
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ok how many windmills, and solar panels?
A whole lot.

Am I correct in guessing that you are considering the CURRENT capabilities of wind and solar and not taking into account the fact that those technologies are also exponentially improving year over year?
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BTW, Agassi giving a 17 minute talk at the TED2009 conference in February in California:

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A whole lot.

Am I correct in guessing that you are considering the CURRENT capabilities of wind and solar and not taking into account the fact that those technologies are also exponentially improving year over year?

I am thinking about the density of BTU of each technology I am also thinking about the damage to bird populations that would ensue from a massive number of windmills in an area with enough wind and the protest from the NIMBY crowd (think a windmill farm off the coast of the cape for example) or the protest of the greenies in CA when a solar farm was to be installed in the desert...
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