Holy Diver

I forget who asked me on this board: "What would convince you that this wasn't an inside job"

I replied, 2 things....

1. Show me the video of the plane hitting the pentagon. NOt the BS frame thing already released. This has yet to happen. They either WANT people to question the event, or the footage they do have is incriminating.

2. Built a 3rd WTC, fly a plane into it, and wait for it to collapse.

until one of those two things comes together, I will always be skeptical.

IcyPatriot

Funny how some comment without never reading the report.

Also ... these 9/11 threads should not always be assumed to support that there was a scheme in place. I feel an open mind is still warranted.
Rather than to say the event was planned it's still not out of the realm of possibility that it was allowed to happen based on the unknown possible facts that the buildings were pre-wired recently or after the 1st attack in the parking garage.

I still am of the opinion that those buildings were pulled ... they fell too neatly and many lives could have been saved by more honest info at that time. Many heroes passed away doing what heroes do ... what if they were given more time to get out or rather ... if they were not allowed to go in.

Members believing our government on this?

A government that destroyed the evidence almost as fast as a flush of a toilet. The media was never given access to the evidence ... that alone should have raised questions.

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

Harry Boy

If a plane didn't fly into the pentagon where did it go, where are the people, if a plane didn't fly into the Pentagon there is a plane missing, isn't there, is it in a Garage somewhere, did "The Bush People" kill the passengers, did Barbara Bush know about this Vanishing Plane, didn't GW Bush's Great Great Grandmother start the Civil War, God Damn Bush's.

Boob Gore buiding a Gobal Warming Shelter>>>>

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In The Absence Of Law And Order Society Will Surely Destroy Itself

Stokes

A few honest questions about the report:

How much thermite would be needed to actually cut supporting columns to the point of collapse? I believe it is a LOT, even if this is some "super thermite."

If this material is so reactive with lower heat (430 degrees), why was it not all combusted essentially instantaneously in an environment where temps were in the 1000s of degrees?

Is it possible that the residue was created from reaction of steel and aluminum in the building, both of which would have been plentiful? Don't forget, iron oxide is a fancy name for rust.

This material burns well below the flashpoint for a traditional thermite reaction, could other trace elements have mixed in with rust and aluminum to make a combustible mixture? The building would be full of gas lines etc, not to mention a few thousand pounds of jet fuel. The authors should be troubled by the finding that they're getting more energy out of the system than a thermite reaction creates. This suggests something else is going on, and super thermite is a possibility but certainly not the only one.

Sample source is a problem, I do not believe any of this material was collected directly by the researchers on-site, rather it was sent to them, right? I read the article earlier today and can't recall.

Is there any discussion as to what the energy release is? I can see it makes a pretty flash when you apply flame directly to it, but is that translated into heat, or is most of the energy lost in the the flash itself? In other words is it at all reasonable that this material could cut through huge steel beams? a sparkler looks impressive when you light it, but it isn't going to cut through much for you.

Why aren't any alternative explanations presented here? This journal claims to be peer-reviewed, but any serious review should have pointed out that it is necessary to eliminate any trivial explanations for the finding (of which I'm sure there are at least a few) before reaching a conclusion. Identifying a material that you can light on fire that contains iron, oxygen, and aluminum from a building that was composed largely of iron, oxygen, and aluminum is not to me basis for any solid conclusion.

Has anyone modeled a thermite reaction weakening a WTC-size steel beam to the point of failure? How much is needed? How long does it take?

PressCoverage

You mean the one investigation that was finally and reluctantly "allowed" 2-3 years later, then controlled, directed and white washed by a WH policy paper writer in charge of it who steadfastly REFUSED to allow subpoenas to be issued?

Why, yes. Most Bush-loving con men you encounter completely legitimize the Kean Commission... In their own self-rationalizing head. To hell with the details.

tanked_as_usual

LMFAO...........can you say......PSYCHO!!!!!

tanked_as_usual

I'm just laughing my arse off at you idiots who believe anyone owes moronic conspiracy theorists like you any kind of explanation at all.......

I'm still waiting for an explanation from the clintons on why so many of their friends and acquatances have been murdered

sdaniels7114

Think before you post there Tanker. If you had done so above you'd have noticed that you're basically laughing at yourself for awaiting an explanation from the Clintons as to why they murdered all their political opponents.

Edit btw you really shouldn't think of yourself as an idiot. Its unproductive. If you're wise enough to accurately place your intelligence level below others you're at least smarter than an idiot.

tanked_as_usual

parody, my dear friend..........learn to tell the difference......I may be no rocket scientist, but I've got it over you, that is for sure

tanked_as_usual

nope.....the fact is that the buildings were not designed to withstand that kind of impact........any structural engineer who sees the plans can tell you this is a no-brainer.......except, of course for clowns like you

buildings whose structural integrity have been compromised by collisions come down all the time.........or are you simply that stupid to dismiss the force of the collision as any kind of mitigating circumstance?

if al gor was in office when it happened, you would not be questioning it.......that is as far as this discussion needs to go