wistahpatsfan

What a tiny, child-like mind you've been burdened with Fraud.

All you have to refute any posts you cannot agree with or even get your perverted brain around is personal insults and disgusting inuendo. How sad you are.

I don't believe in the Invisible Man. You do. You're not satisfied with that, though. Because you belong to a mind-control cult, you can't speak for yourself so I'd probably be better off responding to your puppeteer, the criminal child molester and thief, "Reverend" Moon.

You have no proof that God controls nature. You have had your brain programmed to believe a set of absolute ideas by a sick, demented and evil (talking in terms you might understand, boy) son-of-a-bich. Therefor, you have to deny evolution because you are unable to consider any option other than the creative hand of the Invisible Man.

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html

9. Denigration of competing sects, cults, religions, groups, or organizations.
This is commonplace, and hardly needs any explanation.
What is curious is the degree to which the hatred of others is based on similarity. That is, the closer two groups are in their beliefs, goals, activities, philosophies, appearances, and everything else that defines the group, the more they seem to hate each other. For instance, two Christian cults may viciously attack each other for only the tiniest of differences in beliefs, while neither has such intense passionate feelings about the Democratic or Republican political parties, both of which must presumably have some very large philosophical differences from the Christian cults, on at least some issues.

Similarly, the extremist Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland — Irish Christians, one and all — hated and killed each other for the better part of a century, and yet, they had no such vicious hatred of Hindus, Buddhists, Moslems, or Communist atheists, people with very different religious beliefs... Likewise, during the Middle Ages in Europe, the Christian Catholics and Protestants slaughtered each other by the millions, in the Twenty Years War and the Forty Years War. Those Christians also waged war on Muslims in the Crusades, but the Muslims got off easy, in comparison to the other Christians.

And Scientology has a pathological hatred of psychiatry and psychiatrists, who offer a very different model of the human mind, and how to improve it, than the model that Scientology sells to its members. Scientologists are very vocal in denouncing modern psychiatry and its pharmacology.


Moon considers himself a messiah — "God's ambassador, sent to Earth with his full authority," as he puts it. "Humanity's savior ... returning lord and true parent."
Moon has compared gay people to dung-eating dogs. He has told Jews that the Nazi Holocaust was retribution for the murder of Jesus and that they must "repent and follow and become one with Christianity" through him.

He opposes the separation of church and state, and he wants all religions abolished as the world comes together under one faith led by — wait for it — Sun Myung Moon.

Under Moon's rule, we would all speak Korean and be "assigned" our marital partners. (He's famous, recall, for mass weddings.)
Eric Zorn, "Some find sushi, and Rev. Moon, hard to swallow" Chicago Tribune, April 13, 2006.
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10. Personal attacks on critics.
Anyone who criticizes the Guru, the cult or its dogma is attacked on a personal level.

Rather than honestly and intelligently debating with critics, using facts and logic, the cult will resort to low personal attacks on the critic, using name-calling, slander, condescending put-downs, libelous accusations, personal slurs, accusations of bad motives, and casting aspersions on the critic's intelligence and sanity --

"You are just an atheist, a liar, a dummy, a sinner, a drunkard, stupid, crazy, only in it for the money, etc..."

"You have a low vibrational level."

"And you have bad taste in music and an ugly hair-cut, too."
Scientology calls critics "Suppressive Persons", and claims that they are evil people who are trying to keep the human race enslaved. The Scientology founder and leader, L. Ron Hubbard, instructed his followers to attack critics any way that they could — to investigate them and discover any crimes or dirty secrets that could be used against the critics, and, "If you can't dig up any dirt, make something up."

The Moonies claim that their critics are Satanic and working for the Forces Of Evil.

Amway fanatics call those who have quit the cult and criticize it

"losers"
"ex-distributors who couldn't make it"
"dream-stealers"
"failures that got out of Amway"
"lost dreams"
Another red flag to watch for is how angrily cult members react when the cult or its guru is criticized. Most ordinary or "normal" people can tolerate some questioning and criticism of their organizations and leaders without blowing up and insisting that the critic is satanic, or working for the forces of evil, or part of a big conspiracy to destroy the organization, but cult members often cannot. They go non-linear very rapidly when you point out too many faults or shortcomings of the group or its leader — especially when they cannot refute that criticism.

It is just in the nature of true believers to demand absolute certainty in their beliefs. They like black-and-white all-or-nothing thinking, and they have little or no tolerance for doubts and uncertainty. So they irrationally attack the speaker at the first hint of criticism. True believers prefer simple certainty over uncertain complexity, and they don't like shades of gray or subtlety. Like George W. Bush said, "I don't do nuance." (See Eric Hoffer, The True Believer.)

reflexblue

Wistah Fog has invested SO much of his life to this he can't accept that he could be wrong. Part of what your link says it all. That their Programed to regurgitate what they have been brainwashed to think and say. Fog doesn't have a mind of his own any longer it belongs to Father "the fraud" Moon.
So essentially we're posting to a Parrot.

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patsfan13

Where does God fit in their thinking? Just curious.



Excuse me, I thought it purported to maintain just that. I thought random chance and random beneficial mutation did just that????




Sounds like Intelligent deaign would be allowed to co exist with natural selection????






Checkout M Theory, The universe & big bang may/could be the result of mebranes touching this may happen trillions of times. But why/how do membranes exist.

If one chooses to believe that the universe is intelligent and alive (don't choose to try to explain 'God' beyond that point) then anything we observe and understand is learning about God by definition.

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Chevy

While I agree with you on intelligent design - it is NOT a science - you statement about Reagan is so far off the mark it truly shows how ignorant you are.

Reagan's policies allowed for some of the most incredible scientific advances in our history. While predominantly military in nature - that's how it works.

His attitude towards economics - make it easier for businesses to operate and everyone will benefit - proved to be successful. As we rode into the 90's, we were on a national high.

For the most part, Clinton was an 8 year caretaker. This was fine until the DotCom bubble burst and reality set in. Add that to the liberal-spearheaded "credit ratings are racist - give everyone a loan" fiasco and we have today's crisis. All Bush did was employ a liberal spending attitude.

It can take years for the full effects of an administration's economic policies to become truly evident. What we saw in the mid 90's was mostly due to the drive of the latter half of the 80's.

Liberals think that the rosey-glow of their righteousness will heal all the ills of society.

The rest of us, rooted in reality, see nothing but a superiority-complex-ridden group of fools.

Harry Boy

Patters doesn't like Reagan just as I don't like Obama.

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Reagan did not prepare the next generation for science, he prepared it for business. In fact, at the time I knew a well-connected Republican business leader (an exMarine and Teamster's union buster, too!) who complained that the military was taking too many scientists out of the business world and there was not enough investment in the sciences in schools.

Some of the deregulation by Reagan and Carter worked, but not all of it (as we now know). But, Reagan mainly made his economic policies work (until Bush I bore the brunt of the Reagan-created recession) by spending $500 billion that we didn't have. Deficit spending almost always works for awhile, but at some point it catches up. (I think Obama will have to figure out how to pay for his stimulus plan once the economy gets back on track, or another economic disaster will take place.)

Clinton won the election because of a recession and then fixed the economy largely by being fiscally prudent -- cutting our deficit, embracing world trade protocols (which has pros and cons), and promoting new technologies. None of that had anything to do with Reagan.

I don't think you have any more basis for saying that. Of course, each president to some degree builds on the past, and in that way Reagan benefited from Carter's deregulation of the trucking and airline industry and appointment of Paul Volcker. But, overall, Reagan owns what happened in his term, good and bad.

Conservative think that their narrow minded DO IT MY WAY! attitude will make everything work, and are oblivious to the fact that we live in a multicultural world. Conservatives are still trying to hold onto the white male-dominated America of another era. That's why they are so angry all the time. It's really sort of sad, but funny, these screaming white men like Limbaugh, Savage, and O'Reilly. They are parodies of real men, but they don't know it.

wistahpatsfan

I'm not necessarily posting to him (or should I say "Him") as much as the rest of the forum to show where his spewings and lies are coming from. He is deranged and his way of thinking is meaningless when you think about it, but such backward philosophies detract from all the efforts we should be making as an advanced, enlightened society.

Intellectual persuits should be vigorously rewarded and encouraged, but the anti-intellectuals in the world would lose power and leverage if the truth were to be fully exposed by science...which will ultimately happen...and then they would all have to learn a skill or get a job actually doing something other than proclaiming themselves superior for no apparent reason and making others feel inadequate and guilty in the eyes of a mythological Invisible Man.

I make no bones about it. I'm an athiest. There is no "God" or "gods" as powerful as Santa Clause. I will never let the forces of stupidity and intentional ignorance gum the works of science and enlightenment because that has always been the mission of humanity...not subservience to a mysterious supernatural creature who is nice to us as long as we kiss it's arse and violent and murderous if we don't. Fukc that!