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Old 02-12-2009, 11:42 AM   #21
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Human rights were only a part of his foreign policy when it suited his needs. The policy of detente ignored the suffering of those living under communist rule. Reagan was the one to really push for human rights for large portions of the globe.

The economy was not moving in the right direction in 1980.

Nixon's admin did much of the heavy lifting in the ME peace agreement, believe it or not.
Carter's focus was on the Middle East. He did not have a partner in the Soviet Union as Reagan had in Gorbachev. But, certainly Reagan's biggest achievement, ending the Cold War, was an example of using human rights as an effective part of our foreign policy. Every president builds on the good work of the people who came before him. Carter did build on the Nixon legacy. Nixon would have been a very good president if not for his utter dishonesty with Watergate.

Employment was climbing and inflation was dropping. The usual Republican party line is to credit Paul Volcker (a Carter appointee, not Carter). Reagan almost immediately began deficit spending, which created jobs. Reagan's example in that regard is a good one for Obama to follow, though Obama will of course, invest in helping Americans, rather than helping foreigners.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:42 AM   #22
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Smite the scumsucking Pelosi Bastards Dear Lord Smite The Son Of A B!tches Good, For They Know Full Well What They Do, Burn Them Oh Sweet Lord Savior Jesus Christ Burn Them In Hell, Oh My God.
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Carter's focus was on the Middle East. He did not have a partner in the Soviet Union as Reagan had in Gorbachev. But, certainly Reagan's biggest achievement, ending the Cold War, was an example of using human rights as an effective part of our foreign policy. Every president builds on the good work of the people who came before him. Carter did build on the Nixon legacy. Nixon would have been a very good president if not for his utter dishonesty with Watergate.

Employment was climbing and inflation was dropping. The usual Republican party line is to credit Paul Volcker (a Carter appointee, not Carter). Reagan almost immediately began deficit spending, which created jobs. Reagan's example in that regard is a good one for Obama to follow, though Obama will of course, invest in helping Americans, rather than helping foreigners.
Nixon is fascinating, he did some very good things for the country but was ruined by his pathological need to get back at people and to know what was going on. I want to read more about him when I get a chance.

Reagan began his fight against communist oppression before Gorby came into power over there.

Both unemployment and inflation were higher in 1980 than they were in 1979, at least from the graphs I found:

Historical Inflation data from 1914 to the present
The United States Unemployment Rate By Year

Inflation has it by month and the last 4 of 1980 are stable at about 12.5%.

Anyway sorry that was OT, but an important rebuttal.
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... Intelligent Design is patently absurd. It's basically the science of, "Gee whiz, nature's so awesome that it can't possibly be explained by science; it had to be put together by God (or aliens)...."
The American public is insanely stupid as evidenced by it refusal to save for the future, protect the environment and tune in en masse to "American Idol" as if that's the best way to spent their time.
We poison our children with chemicals in the food and with psychoactive drugs that, 30 years ago, most doctors would hesitate prescribing to an adult.
We keep believing that there can only be two political parties.
Americans sell each other alcohol (not sell...MANDATE) at church events and on the TV all night but throw someone in prison and take all their stuff for growing marijuana in their yard.
We say birth control promotion is wrong, yet the future for an unwed teenage mother is almost always perpetual poverty and a series of boyfriends, some who will molest the child at one point or another.
We sentence a man to life in prison for three felonies regardless of the nature of the crimes, yet Madoff ruind countless lives with his scam and gets to remain a free man because he's got billions of other people's money.
We drop $350 billion on failed banks and brokerage houses on Wall Street that vanishes without a trace and then do it again because the first time didn't work, except this time we give three times the amount.
There's lots more.....

Who can be surprised that the majority of Americans believe in a 5000 year-old child's fairy tale about how the "Invisible Man" created nature and that humans co-existed with dinosaurs?
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The American public is insanely stupid as evidenced by it refusal to save for the future, protect the environment and tune in en masse to "American Idol" as if that's the best way to spent their time.
We poison our children with chemicals in the food and with psychoactive drugs that, 30 years ago, most doctors would hesitate prescribing to an adult.
We keep believing that there can only be two political parties.
Americans sell each other alcohol (not sell...MANDATE) at church events and on the TV all night but throw someone in prison and take all their stuff for growing marijuana in their yard.
We say birth control promotion is wrong, yet the future for an unwed teenage mother is almost always perpetual poverty and a series of boyfriends, some who will molest the child at one point or another.
We sentence a man to life in prison for three felonies regardless of the nature of the crimes, yet Madoff ruind countless lives with his scam and gets to remain a free man because he's got billions of other people's money.
We drop $350 billion on failed banks and brokerage houses on Wall Street that vanishes without a trace and then do it again because the first time didn't work, except this time we give three times the amount.
There's lots more.....

Who can be surprised that the majority of Americans believe in a 5000 year-old child's fairy tale about how the "Invisible Man" created nature and that humans co-existed with dinosaurs?
Well said,and when you get on a roll there a few others that can match you.
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Well said,and when you get on a roll there a few others that can match you.
Thanks. I had to stop myself to answer a call here in the trailer.

I see things like this and then I go talk to people on the jobsite and around other places and my informal feedback doesn't resemble anything like the poll results. I'd bet the house that I could go back to the jobsite outside, ask twenty people if they believe in evolution and 19 will say yes. Maybe it's because I'm in New England. If I was in Texas or Kansas the number would be closer to 5....very disturbing the force of willful ignorance. These same morons think that a sick or dying child is God's will rather than try to understand what's happening in the kid's body and find a cure. The poll explains why medical research - hell, research in general, is always underfunded and resisted by the People...very upsetting and embarrassing.
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I love these a$$holes who want the government to tell everyone what to believe.

Everyone should put a silver shamrock mask on and government can broadcast a signal. "Evolution is truth, evolution is the truth"

The same turds don't want any religion in in anything, but they want to shove their atheistic views down your ******* throat.
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Religion asks "Who?"
Science asks "Why?"

The two, often compared, reasonongs for the age old question of the meaning of life are starting from opposite sides of the spectrum.

One assumes the 'thing' behind it all is a person. They give this person a name, and claim worship of that person will bring about a pelasnat afterlife. An afterlife that, to this day, nobody has written any report about, nor collected data on. You just need to accept the ever evolving narrative....after you choose which one of them you want to believe.

The other seeks data, searching for proof. Faith may be a guide in the belief of science, but their faith is in thier theory that they will find evidence. I applaud science for not assuming the world is flat and stopping there. For not assuming the sun revolves around the earth, and not stopping there. For presenting theories to be proven or disproven by peers, for EVOLVING knowledge and furthering the huma race.

If you believe in a god, and think that someone is going to 'hell' if they don't believe in YOUR God, then who the *** are you faithfully hoping to hang with in the afterlife? An insecure b!tch, in my opinion.

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I love these a$$holes who want the government to tell everyone what to believe.

Everyone should put a silver shamrock mask on and government can broadcast a signal. "Evolution is truth, evolution is the truth"

The same turds don't want any religion in in anything, but they want to shove their atheistic views down your ******* throat.
There's nothing atheistic about believing in evolution. In fact, the Catholic Church believes in evolution or at least says there is no contradiction between religion and the theory of evolution. Do you think they're atheist? And I'm sure I can give you many more examples of organized religion shoving its views down our **** throats, then I can of atheists doing that. Whether we're talking about In God We Trust, one flag under God, the attack on those who greeted people with Happy Holidays, or the attempt by religious Christians to force schools to teach their preferred theories of creation, religion is vastly more aggressive than atheism, though hopefully that will change so that we don't continue to engage in religious wars.
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