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Old 02-09-2009, 11:05 AM   #11
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I actually agree with you here BF. This is total bs. He did say he'd cut taxes on those making less than $250k and that was his definition of the middle class. For the life of me, I do not understand why our gov't is cutting of tax rebates at such low levels..
Because those are the levels where people need it. For someone who makes 250K a year, $1000 doesnt make a damn difference. You give someone who makes $30K a year, $1000, and they'll go out and spend it.


The lower the income, the more likely it gets spent.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:07 AM   #12
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lessen the tax burden on the people and business that actually create jobs
We tried that. It didn't actually work. Businesses just take the tax cuts and give bonuses to members of the board.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:09 AM   #13
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I make less than 75K. I will assure you that I do, in fact, pay income tax.
He was wrong to suggest all below that pay no taxes but this proposal will have people getting $1K "tax cut" who pay no income tax.
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Because those are the levels where people need it. For someone who makes 250K a year, $1000 doesnt make a damn difference. You give someone who makes $30K a year, $1000, and they'll go out and spend it.
That's fine by itself - but in the campaign he said everyone under $250K would get a tax cut. Evidently it was another Obama Lie.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:13 AM   #15
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That's fine by itself - but in the campaign he said everyone under $250K would get a tax cut. Evidently it was another Obama Lie.
Can you post a quote to that?


I remember him saying that "wealthy starts at 250K",(as opposed to McCain, at $5m/yr) and saying he was going to give tax cuts to the middle class. I don't remember him ever giving a number though.

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Can you post a quote to that?


I remember him saying that "wealthy starts at 250K",(as opposed to McCain, at $5m/yr) and saying he was going to give tax cuts to the middle class. I don't remember him ever giving a number though.
Looking at this link :

$150,000 vs. $250,000 - First Read - msnbc.com

It's hard to tell who misled the voters - Obama's quote said tax cuts under $150K but the chart from the Tax Policy Center has a tax cut for those under $227K. So Obama's words weren't a lie but the plan was unless the Tax Policy Center miscalculated from his plan which is doubtful.
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Looking at this link :

$150,000 vs. $250,000 - First Read - msnbc.com

It's hard to tell who misled the voters - Obama's quote said tax cuts under $150K but the chart from the Tax Policy Center has a tax cut for those under $227K. So Obama's words weren't a lie but the plan was unless the Tax Policy Center miscalculated from his plan which is doubtful.
They're taking averages for ranges. I think you understand why the 226K-600K range is a problem for calculate an 'average tax change'




Thanks for making my point:

"What I can say is under the approach I'm taking, if you make $150,000 or less, you will see a tax cut. If you're making $250,000 a year or more, you're going to see a modest increase."


Sounds like hes doing exactly what he said he was going to do. The first quote, which is a fallacy, is MCCAIN.

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They're taking averages for ranges. I think you understand why the 226K-600K range is a problem for calculate an 'average tax change'
How about this range :

$160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut

Unless there's an additional cut we were lied to either by him or the numbers he gave. Because, as of now, no-one making over $150K is getting a tax cut so the above bolded range is simply not true.
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Because those are the levels where people need it. For someone who makes 250K a year, $1000 doesnt make a damn difference. You give someone who makes $30K a year, $1000, and they'll go out and spend it.


The lower the income, the more likely it gets spent.
I disagree...you give someone making $30K/yr and they'll use to pay debt. give it to someone making $100K and they'll buy something. It's just common sense.
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I disagree...you give someone making $30K/yr and they'll use to pay debt. give it to someone making $100K and they'll buy something. It's just common sense.
It's difficult to generalize but I think those up to $250K would largely spend. Once you get into the millionaires, then maybe not.
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