Real World

It was if you hate Jews, and like the platform offered by terrorist organizations.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Synovia

Exactly. One of the points of having a president who is commander in chief is so that they can stem the tide when public opinion gets silly.

PatriotsReign

Thankfully for Americans and America, Obama is not a true liberal. He was voted in because people believed he was moderate and wanted a moderate bipartisan leader.

I doubt many from the extreme left or right voted for him. If the did, they'll be very disappointed.

Harry Boy

If the Extreme Left didn't vote for for Obama what did they do, they certainly didn't vote for McCain.

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PatriotsReign

Hopefully there hiding somewhere!

Real World

This is what drives me nuts about Obama supporters. I honestly do hope you Kool-aid drinkers are correct, and the guy is truly practical, sensible, and somewhere down the middle. HOWEVER, I'm still trying to figure out what this man has done in his lifetime, that certifies he's moderate, or centrist? Your comment above is being presented as a statement. You're not saying you "think" Obama is a moderate, you're saying he IS a moderate, and I can't see how you can come to that conclusion. I very well could be wrong, and lord knows I hope I am, but the man has done nothing to prove that which you state.

BTW, the extreme left didn't vote for him? Are you nuts?!?

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Stokes

I read in the Globe today that it looks like Iraqis are voting for secular candidates over the Shia faction that had been wielding influence, a very good thing IMO.

wistahpatsfan

That's always a good thing. Maybe we could learn something from them.

shmessy

Shmessy: "The election of Hamas in 2006 was a great democratic success also. "

My point exactly.

To answer the OP's sentiments - - will it (the US spending over $1 trillion and 4,000+ American soldiers' lives on Iraq) been seen as "worth it"?

Let's see what kind of government is in power a couple of years after the 140,000+ heavily armed US soldiers leave. I worked that area of the world for our intelligence agencies in the 80's and 90's - - only those ignorant of the Middle East think there will be a West-leaning, non-terrorist supporting, centralized, democratically elected government there after the US pulls out.

And for those of you who want our soldiers to stay there for decades, and for us to empty our treasury for that.........

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wistahpatsfan

Can't argue that.