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Old 01-30-2009, 08:44 AM   #1
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The Marines report a similar rise.

Army plans new training after record number of suicides - CNN.com
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:17 AM   #2
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Just yesterday I talked with a therapist I know who works with veterans. Many of the Iraqi ones suffer from PTSD. Life in Iraq is living in almost constant terror for them, as they drive down the roads fearing that anything thrown or even garbage in the road could be a bomb. It's nonstop stress for many of them. And those who were near an explosion, even if they weren't injured, the stress is worse, and they get very depressed being unable to return to the time that a piece of garbage in the road was just a piece or garbage. And those of are vets. For many of those who are in the military, it must be even worse.
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Just yesterday I talked with a therapist I know who works with veterans. Many of the Iraqi ones suffer from PTSD. Life in Iraq is living in almost constant terror for them, as they drive down the roads fearing that anything thrown or even garbage in the road could be a bomb. It's nonstop stress for many of them. And those who were near an explosion, even if they weren't injured, the stress is worse, and they get very depressed being unable to return to the time that a piece of garbage in the road was just a piece or garbage. And those of are vets. For many of those who are in the military, it must be even worse.

PTSD will no longer earn a Purple Heart, as there is no physical injury.
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"PTSD is an anxiety disorder caused by witnessing or experiencing a traumatic event; it is not a wound intentionally caused by the enemy from an 'outside force or agent' but is a secondary effect caused by witnessing or experiencing a traumatic event," the statement continued.
Troops won't get Purple Heart for stress disorder - CNN.com

Ironically,within the article is another one saying the US will send 3000 more troops to Afghanistan
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Ironically,within the article is another one saying the US will send 3000 more troops to Afghanistan
GW Bush called up the Beautiful Prince Obama and told him to do this.

If anything bad happens during the "Messiah Term" it's all Bush's fault.
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PTSD will no longer earn a Purple Heart, as there is no physical injury.
Troops won't get Purple Heart for stress disorder - CNN.com

Ironically,within the article is another one saying the US will send 3000 more troops to Afghanistan
That's awful. It's still that old attitude towards mental illness -- that somehow it's not real, i.e., it's all in your head. For some reason, there's a certain kind of person who thinks that the heart, liver, kidneys, and lungs can be defective, but the brain cannot. The stresses of war, of living in constant danger, seeing death and destruction, is as a real as a bomb.

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"PTSD is an anxiety disorder caused by witnessing or experiencing a traumatic event; it is not a wound intentionally caused by the enemy from an 'outside force or agent' but is a secondary effect caused by witnessing or experiencing a traumatic event."

Terrorists don't care about the emotional damage they commit? If that was true, then the word "terror" would have no meaning. Of course terrorists want to commit terror, and it's not a secondary event, it's part of the event.
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It IS awful Patters. If we're going to send our young men and women off to war, the LEAST we can do is take care of them when they get home

It's not as if PTSD is something UNUSUAL for veterans or just inherent to these wars. It's a side effect of ANY war I'd imagine, and any soldier is a candidate for it. Then you add the stress their families must go through as they welcome their son/daughter/husband/etc back,only to find this person is totally messed up.

Instead of taking care of them they're made to feel ashamed and somehow "weaker" for it.

The casualties of war are many.
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GW Bush called up the Beautiful Prince Obama and told him to do this.

If anything bad happens during the "Messiah Term" it's all Bush's fault.

Pakistan will belong to Obama (assuming the Afghan escalates which it appears to be doing).
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Pakistan will belong to Obama (assuming the Afghan escalates which it appears to be doing).
We all better hope, and pray, that Pakistan never happens.

As for Vets, it's obviously troubling, and these men and women should get the treatment they deserve.
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Indeed RW, I remember talking about Pakistan being Obama's Cambodia. Excellent read on that:

M. Reza Pirbhai: Pakistan, a New Cambodia?
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So if the US gets increasingly involved in sustained wars, we'll eventually become a nation full of messed up people,families torn apart by death and/or life-changing injuries, and growing numbers of stressed-up,traumatized, mentally unbalanced soldiers.

And those of us fortunate enough not to be directly affected as posted above, will necessarily become war-ized, much like the citizens of some of the countries we're presently fighting.

No wonder gun sales are off the charts
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