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***DarrylS*** · 12-06-2008, 05:38 AM

Heard him a couple of times lately on the radio pimpin his book, here is an op ed from the NY Times..

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/06/op...wMfKh7No6j0keA

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The dishonesty of the narrative about Mr. Obama during the campaign went a step further with its assumption that if you can place two people in the same room at the same time, or if you can show that they held a conversation, shared a cup of coffee, took the bus downtown together or had any of a thousand other associations, then you have demonstrated that they share ideas, policies, outlook, influences and, especially, responsibility for each other’s behavior. There is a long and sad history of guilt by association in our political culture, and at crucial times we’ve been unable to rise above it.

President-elect Obama and I sat on a board together; we livedin the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore. We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions. I knew him as well as thousands of others did, and like millions of others, I wish I knew him better.

Demonization, guilt by association, and the politics of fear did not triumph, not this time. Let’s hope they never will again. And let’s hope we might now assert that in our wildly diverse society, talking and listening to the widest range of people is not a sin, but a virtue.

***DarrylS*** · 12-07-2008, 04:59 AM

Interesting comments on the whole Ayers thing...the head of the Va. GOP, sounds like another right wing lemming to me..

washingtonpost.com

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During the campaign, GOP head Jeff Frederick told a small group of Republican volunteers that "both Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden have friends that have bombed the Pentagon."

Even so, he stood by the comment Tuesday, defending it as true and saying he was taking cues from Republican John McCain's campaign after running mate Sarah Palin said Obama had been "palling around with terrorists."

"The McCain campaign, for quite a while, was getting on me about not being on message, about not delivering their talking points," Frederick said. "And in an effort to do more of what they wanted ... I was doing that, and the Ayers talking point came out."

***Harry Boy*** · 12-07-2008, 09:00 AM

The Liberal Democrat:
Crucify an American governor (Palin) simply because their opposition likes her and she is "Pro America"

Defend and in some cases support a Scumsucking Piece Of ***** like Bill Ayers simply because he is an Anti American Far Left Wing Socialist Bastard who tried to murder American Citizens and has not once shown any remorse for doing so, he still hates America and he Probably "Danced In The Street" 0n the morning of 9/11 along with millions of Muslims around the world.

In my book anybody that has kind words for Bill Ayers is a no good mother f-cking rat bastard.

***IcyPatriot*** · 12-07-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Heard him a couple of times lately on the radio pimpin his book, here is an op ed from the NY Times..

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/06/op...wMfKh7No6j0keA

What a joke of a letter. I guess he forgot to mention a police officer died in one of the blasts. He forgot to mention he helped kick off Obama's state senate campaign at his house. There are others but it really does not matter ... Ayers is a lying slimeball who proved more than once that he hated America more than he ever loved it.

You do know where they planted their bombs don't you Darryl ... I would hope you do.

How about Fort Dix ... they were planning on blowing up a bomb at a party .. luckily the bombs did not work.
The planted a bomb at the home of a New York state Supreme Court justice.
Did I forget to mention a bomb at the New York City police headquaters in 1971.
How about bombing the Pentagon in 1972?
Or how about his two friends that were killed in the Greenwich villiage explosion ... Terry Robbins & Diana Oughton?

You really should at least read the history of Bill Ayers before posting such a lame sheeple type thread.

PatsFanInVa · 12-07-2008, 09:08 AM

So the GOP ends up fielding a team of lying character assassinators AGAIN, and when this is brought to light, Harry, your response is to....

ASSASSINATE CHARACTERS! This time it's "The Liberal Democrat."

I honestly wonder what it's like to live in you guys' minds sometimes. It must be a wonderful, simple, but angry place.

Unfortunately, it's a place that fails time and again to bring anything relevant to the table. I think that's sad.

PFnV

***Harry Boy*** · 12-07-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanInVa

So the GOP ends up fielding a team of lying character assassinators AGAIN, and when this is brought to light, Harry, your response is to....

ASSASSINATE CHARACTERS! This time it's "The Liberal Democrat."

I honestly wonder what it's like to live in you guys' minds sometimes. It must be a wonderful, simple, but angry place.

Unfortunately, it's a place that fails time and again to bring anything relevant to the table. I think that's sad.

PFnV

Very annoying to see these "Liberal Democrats" TRASh & RIDICULE a successful patriotic American like Palin but go dead silent on a piece of ***** like Bill Ayers.

Obama could give Ayers a seat on his cabinet and many of the MTV type democrats would applaud it.

***IcyPatriot*** · 12-07-2008, 09:54 AM

The Bill Ayers Suffers From Memory Loss File.

Chicago Daily Observer | Bill Ayers Resume

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(From the comments, within Lynn Sweet’s blog posting piece defending Bill Ayers)
For those who have forgotten or weren’t born yet here is a list of a few of the activities. Just think if this were happening today:

7 October 1969 – Bombing of Haymarket Police Statue in Chicago, apparently as a “kickoff” for the “Days of Rage” riots in the city October 8–11, 1969. The Weathermen later claim credit for the bombing in their book, “Prairie Fire.”

8 October-11, 1969 – The “Days of Rage” riots occur in Chicago in which 287 Weatherman members from throughout the country were arrested and a large amount of property damage was done.

6 December 1969 – Bombing of several Chicago Police cars parked in a precinct parking lot at 3600 North Halsted Street, Chicago. The WUO stated in their book “Prairie Fire” that they had did the explosion.

27 December-31, 1969 – Weathermen hold a “War Council” meeting in Flint, MI, where they finalize their plans to submerge into an underground status from which they plan to commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government. Thereafter they are called the “Weather Underground Organization” (WUO).

13 February 1970 – Bombing of several police vehicles of the Berkeley, California, Police Department .

16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.

6 March 1970 – Bombing in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan. 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.

6 March 1970 – “bomb factory” located in New York’s Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members Theodore die in t. The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer’s dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails TO INFILICT MAXIMUM CASUALTIES UPON DETONATION.

30 March 1970 – Chicago Police discover a WUO “bomb factory” on Chicago’s north side. A subsequent discovery of a WUO “weapons cache” in a south side Chicago apartment several days later ends WUO activity in the city.

10 May 1970 – Bombing of The National Guard Association building in Washington, D.C..

21 May 1970 – The WUO under Bernardine Dohrn’s name releases its “Declaration of a State of War” communique.

6 June 1970 – The WUO sends a letter claiming credit for bombing of the San Francisco Hall of Justice; however, no explosion actually took place. Months later, workmen in this building located an unexploded device which had apparently been dormant for some time.

9 June 1970 – Bombing of The New York City Police Headquarters .

27 July 1970 – Bombing of The Presidio army base in San Francisco. [NYT, 7/27/70]

12 September 1970 – The WUO helps Dr. Timothy Leary, break out and escape from the California Men’s Colony prison.

8 October 1970 – Bombing of Marin County courthouse. [NYT, 8/10/70]

10 October 1970 – Bombing of Queens traffic-court building . [NYT, 10/10/70, p. 12]

14 October 1970 – Bombing of The Harvard Center for International Affairs [NYT, 10/14/70, p. 30]

1 March 1971 – Bombing of The United States Capitol . ” [NYT, 3/2/71]
April, 1971 – abandoned WUO “bomb factory” discovered in San Francisco, California.

29 August, 1971 – Bombing of the Office of California Prisons . [LAT, 8/29/71]

17 September 1971 – Bombing of The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, NY [NYT, 9/18/71]

15 October 1971 – Bombing of William Bundy’s office in the MIT research center. [NYT, 10/16/71]

19 May 1972 – Bombing of The Pentagon . [NYT, 5/19/72]

18 May 1973 – Bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in New York

28 September 1973 – Bombing of ITT headquarters in New York and Rome, Italy . [NYT, 9/28/73]

6 March 1974 – Bombing of the Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare offices in San Francisco

31 May 1974 – Bombing of The Office of the California Attorney General.

17 June 1974 – Bombing of Gulf Oil’s Pittsburgh headquarters .

11 September 1974 – Bombing of Anaconda Corporation (part of the Rockefeller Corporation).

29 January 1975 – Bombing of the State Department in (AP. “State Department Rattled by Blast,” The Daily Times-News, January 29 1975, p.1)

16 June 1975 – Bombing of Banco de Ponce (a Puerto Rican bank) in New York .

September, 1975 – Bombing of the Kennecott Corporation .

October 20, 1981 – Brinks robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car near Nyack, New York. The robbers murdered 2 police officers and 1 Brinks guard. Several others were wounded.

1981 “Guilty as hel*. Free as a bird. America is a great country,” Ayers said when interviewed by David Horowitz.

September 11, 2001 “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” Ayers is quoted in NYT article

***363839*** · 12-07-2008, 09:54 AM

IcyPatriot, is there proof for all those accusations you made in your post?
Edit; That sure is a lot of terrorist activity. Bill Ayers is responsible for ALL those?

PatsfaninVa, can you prove that they are lying.

Any links from either of you would be appreciated.

PatsFanInVa · 12-07-2008, 09:56 AM

"MTV Democrats" must be like "John Stewart Jews" (as I understand it, this is the branch of Judaism I belong to

)

At least your hackneyed reference to "Liberal Democrats" was coherent. But I do have to say it's heartening that you feal "Liberal" is no longer a mean nasty name to call people, and has to be bolstered with the nonsensical term "MTV Democrats."

PFnV

***IcyPatriot*** · 12-07-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 363839

IcyPatriot, is there proof for all those accusations you made in your post?
Edit; That sure is a lot of terrorist activity. Bill Ayers is responsible for ALL those?

PatsfaninVa, can you prove that they are lying.

Any links from either of you would be appreciated.

The Weather Underground - TIME

List of Weatherman actions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.americanissuesproject.org...neOfEvents.pdf

Resume of a Terrorist: Obama’s Buddy Ayers

This one is from 2003 ... well before the Obama/Ayers stories began.
http://www.slate.com/id/2084009/