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Old 11-14-2008, 01:58 PM   #1
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Doctors in Berlin are reporting that they cured a man of AIDS by giving him transplanted blood stem cells from a person naturally resistant to the virus.
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according to our president, Pharmacutc....ummm....I mean JESUS doesn't want to cure people of disease by using stem cells...Its abortion!



On the real, imagine if the leading medical minds iin teh US were allowed to research such things?


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I heard this this morning on the news.. wonder if it works only on non-gay people, as gay folks deserve it if they get aids... God said so...
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I heard this this morning on the news.. wonder if it works only on non-gay people, as gay folks deserve it if they get aids... God said so...
I hope that this news doesn't encourage people to be gay.
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according to our president, Pharmacutc....ummm....I mean JESUS doesn't want to cure people of disease by using stem cells...Its abortion!



On the real, imagine if the leading medical minds iin teh US were allowed to research such things?


Imagine....
Bush is against embryonic stem cells being used for research. These weren't embryonic stem cell, they were adult bone marrow stem cells, you get a F in politics and biology.
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Bush is against embryonic stem cells being used for research. These weren't embryonic stem cell, they were adult bone marrow stem cells, you get a F in politics and biology.
Not only that but he only banned federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, not the research itself.
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Not only that but he only banned federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, not the research itself.
All in all this is great news. I hope they put something together for Cancer... :\
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Not only that but he only banned federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, not the research itself.
Well, he couldn't ban the research itself.. Much like abortion... But there's little doubt he'd like to.
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Well, he couldn't ban the research itself.. Much like abortion... But there's little doubt he'd like to.
That's irrelevant. Most people seem to think "Bush banned stem cell research". When he actually "Stopped federal funding of embryonic stem cell research".

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Well, BF, that begs a question or two:

- Do other countries fund embryonic stem cell research?
- Do they sometimes get information that leads to cures?
- If so, why don't we?

In fact, if they were using adult stem cells in the German case we're discussing, isn't it possible that they got early data pointing them to this use, from use of embryonic stem cells, which have the advantage of relative plasticity (i.e., ready adaptability into any type of cell for research purposes?)

One has to imagine that the scientific research community, far from being a cabal of baby-eaters, actually wants to research cures for diseases.

So: are we forgoing cures because we won't fund embryonic stem cell research?

Oh and by the way, your funding distinction is absurd. Government grants are a huge part of scientific research. The amount a breakthrough costs sort of makes research a natural for government expenditure, as can be seen in the amount spent by governments worldwide in all fields of scientific endeavor.

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