Obama and the War on Brains - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > Off Topic Forums > Political Discussion
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-10-2008, 05:12 AM   #1
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
reflexblue's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: East Cup Cake
Posts: 16,530
Default Obama and the War on Brains

Its about time because there are millions upon millions of people in this country that revel in their ignorance like its some badge of honor. If it weren't for the educated in this country that have brought it to the fore front of the development of new technology the U.S. would be an agrarian society with a low standard of living and very little power. Just for starters. Maybe with the election of BO we can change this misguided notion that ignorance is a good trait.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/op...ristof.html?em

Barack Obama’s election is a milestone in more than his pigmentation. The second most remarkable thing about his election is that American voters have just picked a president who is an open, out-of-the-closet, practicing intellectual.

Maybe, just maybe, the result will be a step away from the anti-intellectualism that has long been a strain in American life. Smart and educated leadership is no panacea, but we’ve seen recently that the converse — a White House that scorns expertise and shrugs at nuance — doesn’t get very far either.

We can’t solve our educational challenges when, according to polls, Americans are approximately as likely to believe in flying saucers as in evolution, and when one-fifth of Americans believe that the sun orbits the Earth.

Almost half of young Americans said in a 2006 poll that it was not necessary to know the locations of countries where important news was made. That must be a relief to Sarah Palin, who, according to Fox News, didn’t realize that Africa was a continent rather than a country.

Perhaps John Kennedy was the last president who was unapologetic about his intellect and about luring the best minds to his cabinet. More recently, we’ve had some smart and well-educated presidents who scrambled to hide it. Richard Nixon was a self-loathing intellectual, and Bill Clinton camouflaged a fulgent brain behind folksy Arkansas aphorisms about hogs.

As for President Bush, he adopted anti-intellectualism as administration policy, repeatedly rejecting expertise (from Middle East experts, climate scientists and reproductive health specialists). Mr. Bush is smart in the sense of remembering facts and faces, yet I can’t think of anybody I’ve ever interviewed who appeared so uninterested in ideas.........con.
__________________
S.H.E.S.
I Likes Spikes.
reflexblue is offline   Reply With Quote
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 11-10-2008, 05:21 AM   #2
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brighton, MA
Posts: 5,742
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

I can understand why everyone hates the smartest kid in the class. You'd think they'd get over it though, when its time to pick the President.
sdaniels7114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 05:32 AM   #3
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
reflexblue's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: East Cup Cake
Posts: 16,530
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Quote:
Originally Posted by sdaniels7114 View Post
I can understand why everyone hates the smartest kid in the class. You'd think they'd get over it though, when its time to pick the President.
Because of this notion that dumb is good,were falling behind. Two years ago the U.S. graduated 10,000 engineers in all fields from what i can remember. In india alone 80,000 graduated. We can't keep this up or we WILL eventually be a second rate power.
__________________
S.H.E.S.
I Likes Spikes.
reflexblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 06:35 AM   #4
All Pro Poster
 
PatsFanInVa's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 17,663
My Mood: Angelic
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Quote:
Originally Posted by reflexblue View Post
Because of this notion that dumb is good,were falling behind. Falling behind two years ago the U.S. graduated 10,000 engineers in all fields from what i can remember. In india alone 80,000 graduated. We can't keep this up or we WILL eventually be a second rate power.
You must mean militarily.

We already are a second rate power in regard to education, preventable deaths, infant mortality, literacy, and lifespan.

PFnV
PatsFanInVa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 06:50 AM   #5
Look Up, It's Amazing
 
Harry Boy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 33,849
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

The MTV Crowd elected the President (stupid bastards)

Where would smart rich bastards be without a$s holes like me working for them, they're to smart to drive trucks so if the intelligent brilliant saps wanted something and I wasn't there with my little truck the Brain Surgeon would have to go and get whatever it was he wanted himself, or send his stupid wife------Imagine what a nut house we would live in if everybody was smart-------
__________________
Harry Boy (Genius)

In The Absence Of Law And Order Society Will Surely Destroy Itself
Harry Boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 07:54 AM   #6
Maude
 
shmessy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 16,090
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Quote:
Originally Posted by reflexblue View Post
Because of this notion that dumb is good,were falling behind. Falling behind two years ago the U.S. graduated 10,000 engineers in all fields from what i can remember. In india alone 80,000 graduated. We can't keep this up or we WILL eventually be a second rate power.
Oh, stop being an elitist.
__________________
"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com
shmessy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 07:57 AM   #7
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
reflexblue's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: East Cup Cake
Posts: 16,530
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsFanInVa View Post
You must mean militarily.

We already are a second rate power in regard to education, preventable deaths, infant mortality, literacy, and lifespan.

PFnV
A reflection of the last 25 years of this idea, or policy i've read that as recently as yesterday. Read that It started with the Reagon Adm. cutting funding for education. He pledged to cut taxes and the pork,so an easy target was education let the states handle that along with everything else.
__________________
S.H.E.S.
I Likes Spikes.
reflexblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 07:58 AM   #8
Maude
 
shmessy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 16,090
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Boy View Post
The MTV Crowd elected the President (stupid bastards)

Where would smart rich bastards be without a$s holes like me working for them, they're to smart to drive trucks so if the intelligent brilliant saps wanted something and I wasn't there with my little truck the Brain Surgeon would have to go and get whatever it was he wanted himself, or send his stupid wife------Imagine what a nut house we would live in if everybody was smart-------

We don't need everyone to be smart, Harry. No one is threatening you or your "little truck"......or your cigarettes......or lotto tickets......or booze.

We're just glad to be getting a President who has a brain.
__________________
"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com
shmessy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:14 AM   #9
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
Tunescribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 12,764
My Mood: Brooding
Send a message via AIM to Tunescribe
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Quote:
Originally Posted by reflexblue View Post
Its about time because there are millions upon millions of people in this country that revel in their ignorance like its some badge of honor. If it weren't for the educated in this country that have brought it to the fore front of the development of new technology the U.S. would be an agrarian society with a low standard of living and very little power. Just for starters. Maybe with the election of BO we can change this misguided notion that ignorance is a good trait.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/op...ristof.html?em

Barack Obama’s election is a milestone in more than his pigmentation. The second most remarkable thing about his election is that American voters have just picked a president who is an open, out-of-the-closet, practicing intellectual.

Maybe, just maybe, the result will be a step away from the anti-intellectualism that has long been a strain in American life. Smart and educated leadership is no panacea, but we’ve seen recently that the converse — a White House that scorns expertise and shrugs at nuance — doesn’t get very far either.

We can’t solve our educational challenges when, according to polls, Americans are approximately as likely to believe in flying saucers as in evolution, and when one-fifth of Americans believe that the sun orbits the Earth.

Almost half of young Americans said in a 2006 poll that it was not necessary to know the locations of countries where important news was made. That must be a relief to Sarah Palin, who, according to Fox News, didn’t realize that Africa was a continent rather than a country.

Perhaps John Kennedy was the last president who was unapologetic about his intellect and about luring the best minds to his cabinet. More recently, we’ve had some smart and well-educated presidents who scrambled to hide it. Richard Nixon was a self-loathing intellectual, and Bill Clinton camouflaged a fulgent brain behind folksy Arkansas aphorisms about hogs.

As for President Bush, he adopted anti-intellectualism as administration policy, repeatedly rejecting expertise (from Middle East experts, climate scientists and reproductive health specialists). Mr. Bush is smart in the sense of remembering facts and faces, yet I can’t think of anybody I’ve ever interviewed who appeared so uninterested in ideas.........con.
Great post, Flex. One thing I'd add to this discussion is that intellect means little without wisdom and discernment. I hope, and believe, that Obama understands this. Reagan didn't have the intellect but he did have some wisdom and mediocre discernment. Clinton had excellent intellect and some wisdom but poor discernment. George W. brought nothing to the table. Obama shows a lot of promise and seems to have vision, I pray that he delivers.
Tunescribe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:22 AM   #10
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
 
Patriot_in_NY's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 8,333
My Mood: Blah
Default Re: Obama and the War on Brains

Latte anyone?
Patriot_in_NY is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC