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The lack of attention given to this flip flop by the mainstream media must be one of those examples of media bias and lack of objectivity that RW is always ranting about, except that he always gets it wrong about which group the media bias helps.
P.S. - Also, make sure to let the video run long enough to hear this rightwing student's, who doesn't understand why her doctor dad has to "pay more", definition of slavery. Makes for a good laugh.
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The lack of attention given to this flip flop by the mainstream media must be one of those examples of media bias and lack of objectivity that RW is always ranting about, except that he always gets it wrong about which group the media bias helps.
P.S. - Also, make sure to let the video run long enough to hear this rightwing student's, who doesn't understand why her doctor dad has to "pay more", definition of slavery. Makes for a good laugh.
definitely a flip flopper. you have more respect for him then than now. it appears he sold out.
we're all slaves!!!
__________________ "There are two categories of superbowl participants that nobody remembers:
The team that lost the game and the team that only won one." Dwight White- Steelers
It's not the progressive system of taxation that is at question here. It's the matter of taking someone's money, and handing it to someone else (spreading it around). When a dude pays $5k in taxes persay, files his return, and the gubmit gives him $8k back, that's highly objectionable. That extra $3k that was not earned by this indivdual, as it was stolen from someone else's sweat. Furthermore, if you listen to what McLame says, he points out that he thinks the progressive system's rates need to be within reason, or as he put it, porportion:
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So, look, here's what I really believe, that when you are -- reach a
certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat
more. But at the same time, that shouldn't be totally out of
proportion. There's some countries such as Sweden where it doesn't pay
anything to work more than six months a year. That's probably the
extreme.
He then reminds people the debate is about cutting taxes. Obama wants to raise them substantially for higher earners. No where in that video does he propose raising taxes on anyone. He only emphasizes that middle class earners should get a break before anyone.
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But I think the debate in this country is more about tax cuts rather than anything else. And frankly, I think the first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate
their children, and they're the ones that I would support tax cuts for
first.
Remember, McLame voted against GW's tax cuts. Of course now he's all luvy over them, cuz he has to be. A progressive system doesn't spread wealth. It simply lets lower earners keep more of their own money. Spreading wealth is when you give those earners money stolen from someone else. This point is lost on some people. I'm all for lower taxes for everyone. I personally would love to see people making under $100k not pay a dime of income tax. Of course, I'd slash gubmit to accomplish that, which no politician ever proposes to do. That being said, McCain looks compentent in that video. He actually looks like someone who kinda knows what he's talking about. He's almost incoherent at this point though. I really don't have any confidence in either ticket. I hope whomever wins does a great job though.
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
the larger question is where is the money going to come from. we have a 10 trillion dollar debt. taxes ain't gonna get cut.
what people want to see is the lower classes get more money so they can start buying useless junk most of which comes from china. but that consumerism drives 2/3rd of the economy.
this whole socialism argument is so idiotic. each candidate has eluded to it. candidates in the past have. what else are you going to say as a candidate to the people?
we want government to get smaller but that will put more people on the streets. if this is done the unemployment rate will skyrocket.
you can't fix 8 years of poor management within 1 yr let alone 4. the fix is going to be painful. people's lifestyles are going to change radically.
the bailout has turned into corporations paying out dividens and bonuses. trickle down doesn't trickle down.
and since it doesn't trickle down it's a good thing that the government will trickle it down through redistr. of wealth whether we like it or not. the progressive tax is socialism.
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It's not the progressive system of taxation that is at question here. It's the matter of taking someone's money, and handing it to someone else (spreading it around). When a dude pays $5k in taxes persay, files his return, and the gubmit gives him $8k back, that's highly objectionable. That extra $3k that was not earned by this indivdual, as it was stolen from someone else's sweat.
how about welfare? how about social security? how about unemployment benefits? some people get more back than they put in.
__________________ "There are two categories of superbowl participants that nobody remembers:
The team that lost the game and the team that only won one." Dwight White- Steelers
the larger question is where is the money going to come from. we have a 10 trillion dollar debt. taxes ain't gonna get cut.
what people want to see is the lower classes get more money so they can start buying useless junk most of which comes from china. but that consumerism drives 2/3rd of the economy.
this whole socialism argument is so idiotic. each candidate has eluded to it. candidates in the past have. what else are you going to say as a candidate to the people?
we want government to get smaller but that will put more people on the streets. if this is done the unemployment rate will skyrocket.
you can't fix 8 years of poor management within 1 yr let alone 4. the fix is going to be painful. people's lifestyles are going to change radically.
the bailout has turned into corporations paying out dividens and bonuses. trickle down doesn't trickle down.
and since it doesn't trickle down it's a good thing that the government will trickle it down through redistr. of wealth whether we like it or not. the progressive tax is socialism.
how about welfare? how about social security? how about unemployment benefits? some people get more back than they put in.
You really think that the last 8 years are the problem? They only added fuel to the fire my friend. Do you know the one "industry" that grew this year? Government. 13.9% according to CNBC's Erin Burnett.
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You really think that the last 8 years are the problem? They only added fuel to the fire my friend. Do you know the one "industry" that grew this year? Government. 13.9% according to CNBC's Erin Burnett.
I don't really think the last 8 years is the problem. we've had a problem since 1961, but the evidence shows debt was going down in clinton's years and he was going in the right direction and bush just totally killed it.
bush doubled the national debt. reagan killed it too. in fact it looks like the GOP has put us in this problem.
__________________ "There are two categories of superbowl participants that nobody remembers:
The team that lost the game and the team that only won one." Dwight White- Steelers
I don't really think the last 8 years is the problem. we've had a problem since 1961, but the evidence shows debt was going down in clinton's years and he was going in the right direction and bush just totally killed it.
bush doubled the national debt. reagan killed it too. in fact it looks like the GOP has put us in this problem.
One of the reasons I was pro Hillary this election. I think she would have assembled pretty much the same staff with pretty much the same philosophies ... but ... that's old news.
One of the reasons I was pro Hillary this election. I think she would have assembled pretty much the same staff with pretty much the same philosophies ... but ... that's old news.
if obama wins do you think there is any spot for her in his cabinet?
__________________ "There are two categories of superbowl participants that nobody remembers:
The team that lost the game and the team that only won one." Dwight White- Steelers
McCain the socialist
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