Joe the Plumber is not.. and he owes back taxes.. - New England Patriots Forums

***DarrylS*** · 10-17-2008, 03:38 AM

Here they go again, deifying a guy who is just a guy, putting his name and face all over the news from a brief exchange... come to find out he is not licensed and owes $1200 in back taxes... this was the focal part of the debate the other night, and come to find out he is pretty much a fraud.. but sure he will be used over and over again to try to hammer home a point.

McCain discovers plumber no ordinary Joe - Carrie Budoff Brown and Amie Parnes - Politico.com

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NEW YORK – John McCain hung his final presidential debate performance on an Ohio plumber who campaign aides never vetted.

He owes back taxes. He is not a licensed plumber. And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.

McCain likes to say that he isn’t George W. Bush – and in this case of bungled public relations, it is clear he is not.

PatsWSB47 · 10-17-2008, 06:47 AM

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Here they go again, deifying a guy who is just a guy, putting his name and face all over the news from a brief exchange... come to find out he is not licensed and owes $1200 in back taxes... this was the focal part of the debate the other night, and come to find out he is pretty much a fraud.. but sure he will be used over and over again to try to hammer home a point.

McCain discovers plumber no ordinary Joe - Carrie Budoff Brown and Amie Parnes - Politico.com

Well the left press went right to work trying to demonize him of course. BTW you can work as an apprentice and not be licencesed, no fraud there whatsoever. Unfortunate that he owes back taxes because that will become the deflecting and disingenuous point of the story.

Look it. Not everyone is going to be an Ivy League graduate or a community college graduate for that matter. There's lots of Joe plumber, electrician, carpenter guys out there that do work long and hard hours to some day own their own business, maybe make two, three four hundred thousand dollars or more as they fulfill the American dream. Along the way they'll expand and hire more employees who may or may not have the same dream but will create jobs none the less. And who knows, with Joes inspiring story maybe more Joe's are born? Now if you want to paint Joe with the rotten rich bastards that aren't paying their fair share of taxes you can. If want him to aspire to become something better in his life so he can spread his hard earned "wealth" go ahead. My daughter’s ex-boyfriend's parents that have refused to work for the past 20 years will appreciate the tax cut....no credit because they have paid no taxes of course.

Thanks Joe for the hard work and overtime. Thanks Joe for the new business and new employees you've taken off the unemployment rolls. But we’re sorry for what we have to do to you now. We really are. You see you’re hurting our redistribution plan with you’re inspiring story. So we’re forced to ridicule you, and make fun of you. Now pay up you rich SOB!

***weswelker#83*** · 10-17-2008, 07:29 AM

Joe the Plumber is a fraud: his real name is Sam, is unlicensed, is a registered Republican, and owes back taxes to Ohio
Story of Joe the Plumber springs many leaks

sdaniels7114 · 10-17-2008, 07:33 AM

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Well the left press went right to work trying to demonize him of course. BTW you can work as an apprentice and not be licencesed, no fraud there whatsoever. Unfortunate that he owes back taxes because that will become the deflecting and disingenuous point of the story.

Actually, I think the deflecting and disingenuous point of the story is that Joe would pay less taxes under Obama's plan yet he's still pissed off at him.

***PATSNUTme*** · 10-17-2008, 07:52 AM

Wow. Just think what our main stream press would do if they spent time investigating ACORN instead of a plumber.

BTW, he wants to buy a plumbing company and expand it. Maybe he owes back taxes and maybe he is not licensed but he does work for a plumbing company and working toward his license.

But I guess it's more important for the press to go after a blue collar guy who does work 10 hours a day than a group receiving federal tax dollars and committing wide spread voter fraud.

Does anyone see the slightest amount of media malpractice here?

scout · 10-17-2008, 08:10 AM

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Wow. Just think what our main stream press would do if they spent time investigating ACORN instead of a plumber.

BTW, he wants to buy a plumbing company and expand it. Maybe he owes back taxes and maybe he is not licensed but he does work for a plumbing company and working toward his license.

But I guess it's more important for the press to go after a blue collar guy who does work 10 hours a day than a group receiving federal tax dollars and committing wide spread voter fraud.

Does anyone see the slightest amount of media malpractice here?

Did you forget to mention that he was talking on right-wing radio shows before he was on center stage? The guy was not an innocent bystander.

***patsfan13*** · 10-17-2008, 08:41 AM

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Did you forget to mention that he was talking on right-wing radio shows before he was on center stage? The guy was not an innocent bystander.

Point is he was approached by BO not the other way around, he asked a better question than the BO adoring press had asked.

The personal attack on a guy who isn't a candidate is amazing and shows how the BO machine will work to destroy anyone who dares question the messiah.

Thugocracy indeed.

***BelichickFan*** · 10-17-2008, 08:51 AM

Two points :

- I doubt he would pay less taxes under Obama when the Bush taxcut rollback is factored in.

- Joe is irrelevant. The larger point is not. I don't know who Joe is and I don't care but if he is/were a plumber with a small business, Obama wants to take what he can and distribute it how he sees fit.

scout · 10-17-2008, 08:58 AM

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Point is he was approached by BO not the other way around, he asked a better question than the BO adoring press had asked.

The personal attack on a guy who isn't a candidate is amazing and shows how the BO machine will work to destroy anyone who dares question the messiah.

Thugocracy indeed.

I thought it was McCain who brought up Joe the plumber at the debate, which was the start of his national exposure. Did Obama talk with anyone else that day?
Yea, it was the BO machine that 'destroyed' the guy who was on right-wing radio before this took place.

PatsWSB47 · 10-17-2008, 09:01 AM

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Joe the Plumber is a fraud: his real name is Sam, is unlicensed, is a registered Republican, and owes back taxes to Ohio
Story of Joe the Plumber springs many leaks

Hey Wes, The plumbing company that put in my new bathroom had the owner’s son, who is an apprentice and not licensed do the majority of the work. He did a fabulous job. I'll tell him you think he's a fraud.

Is your real name Wes, you fraud?

Yeah he owes back taxes and has to pay them but does that make him ineligible to want to own and maintain a business? And last but not least, are registered democrats the only ones allowed these aspirations or are they the only ones that aren't frauds in your world.