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Old 10-10-2008, 09:47 AM   #1
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Dead people voted in the Texas primary this year, the Dallas Cowboys were among a few thousand people fraudulently registered in Nevada, and Missourri thinks some corpses have made plans for November 4th. Anyone worried?

Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters

POSTED: 11:16 am CDT October 9, 2008
UPDATED: 9:08 am CDT October 10, 2008

HOUSTON --

"As far back as I can remember, they've always voted in the election," Guidry said of her parents.

The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis' mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home. "It was just very shocking, a little unsettling," said Alexis Guidry.

It's unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.

Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters - Local 2 Investigates News Story - KPRC Houston


Missouri officials suspect fake voter registration

By BILL DRAPER, Associated Press Writer
Wed Oct 8, 9:45 PM ET

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Officials in Missouri, a hard-fought jewel in the presidential race, are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms submitted by an advocacy group that has been accused of election fraud in other states.

Missouri officials suspect fake voter registration - Yahoo! News




Alleging fraud, authorities raid voter group

ACORN's canvassers filled out forms with fake names, addresses, officials say

By ADRIENNE PACKER and MOLLY BALL
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Authorities on Tuesday morning raid the offices of ACORN, a voter registration organization, and seize registration forms and computer databases.
Photo by Craig L. Moran.

State authorities on Tuesday raided an organization that registers low-income people to vote, alleging that its canvassers falsified forms with bogus names, fake addresses or famous personalities.

The secretary of state's office launched an investigation after noticing that names did not match addresses and that most members of the Dallas Cowboys appeared to be registering in Nevada to vote in November's general election.


"Some of these (forms) were facially fraudulent; we basically had the starting lineup for the Dallas Cowboys," Secretary of State Ross Miller said. "Tony Romo is not registered to vote in Nevada. Anyone trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot."

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Old 10-10-2008, 09:57 AM   #2
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1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS

'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

By JEANE MacINTOSH Post Correspondent
Posted: 4:00 am
October 10, 2008

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.



OHIO MAN BRIBED BY ACORN ACTIVISTS TO REGISTER TO VOTE 72 TIMES - New York Post
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Voter fraud has always been pretty common, and attempts to control are also common. The problem with ACORN is that they employ people to get people registered. Every now and then someone tries to cheat and they get caught. Obviously, that's what happened in the case of ACORN where the cheater not only used the names of famous people, he also didn't disguise his handwriting. He probably got a couple hundred dollars from ACORN for insisting he registered a lot of people, but of course got quickly found out.

Republican cheating is quite rampant this year as it has been in recent years. There are many, many examples, but this story came out yesterday:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us...ll&oref=slogin

Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.

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Still, because Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately.

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The six swing states seem to be in violation of federal law in two ways. Michigan and Colorado are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.

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1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS

'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

By JEANE MacINTOSH Post Correspondent
Posted: 4:00 am
October 10, 2008

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.



OHIO MAN BRIBED BY ACORN ACTIVISTS TO REGISTER TO VOTE 72 TIMES - New York Post

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Voter fraud has always been pretty common, and attempts to control are also common. The problem with ACORN is that they employ people to get people registered. Every now and then someone tries to cheat and they get caught. Obviously, that's what happened in the case of ACORN where the cheater not only used the names of famous people, he also didn't disguise his handwriting. He probably got a couple hundred dollars from ACORN for insisting he registered a lot of people, but of course got quickly found out.

Republican cheating is quite rampant this year as it has been in recent years. There are many, many examples, but this story came out yesterday:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us...ll&oref=slogin

Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.

...

Still, because Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately.

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The six swing states seem to be in violation of federal law in two ways. Michigan and Colorado are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.

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dem Rats hate removing the dead from the rolls since they are such a reliable constituency for the libs.
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Cheating is OK among the Democrats because they believe themselves to always "be right" and that they are the saviors of mankind, they are the truth and the way, they are the Village that Pant Suit Hillary says it takes to raise your family and guide you through this life, therfore there is nothing wrong for a democrat to cheat in order to force their will upon us all.

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I didn't say Democrat, or Republican, cuz my guess is that both sides are guilty, or looking for an advantage, whatever way possible. I just think voter fraud, when found, should be penalized to the max. Make it so that no one will ever attempt it, for fear of being penalized.
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dem Rats hate removing the dead from the rolls since they are such a reliable constituency for the libs.
Both sides cheat on the local level. The real danger though, I think, is electronic cheating (e.g., Diebold) which could creating widespread dishonesty. The other kinds of cheating are fought with some success and I suspect rarely effect an election, though Ohio 2004, Florida 2000, and Illinois 1960 may been cases where the cheating affected the results of a national election. (There may be other examples prior to those, too, but I don't know.)
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Yeah, the Acorn model to get out the vote lends itself to potentially all kinds of fraud as proved with your examples but here’s another potential problem:

It's too close today to the election but if you were in Ohio as late as 5 days ago, you could have claimed residency, legally registered to vote then vote in the upcoming election leave the state so long as you returned sometime in the next 4 years. In a swing state like Ohio, think there is a legitimate concern on how many votes will be imported this way, especailly with the register to vote and vote early policy they have there.

But I’m going to take off my partisan hat for a moment to make a point or two. I think it’s clear to anyone trying to be objective that Acorn in it’s zeal to elect a democrat crosses the line…..not so much by policy but by model with its quota requirements. At the same time I think republicans would want nothing more than investigations of Acorn in these swing states, not only to uncover possible fraud but with the added benefit of scaring away some votes.Yeah they want a clean vote but only in the sates that will help them and if some people get intimidated by that, oh well. But before you libs start feeling too self righteous, remember how you only wanted recounts in the 4 counties that had the highest number of registered democrats in FL? Yeah they wanted a recount but only where you would most likely gain votes, if it meant disenfranchising some republicans in their majority counties, oh well. Dems and republicans are no different.

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I said "Democrat" because they have done it, time after time in Chicago, they will probaly do it again, next month.

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"ok everybody up, it's time to vote, remember the guy you are voting for is Barack Hussein Obama, after you vote come right back here and get into your grave, don't let any of those f-cking republicans see you, make yourselves invisible"
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