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Fogbuster · 10-08-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

My two under-9 year old children understand simple concepts better than you:
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Originally Posted by Fogbuster
I never said anyone should pledge their loyalty to any party, Republican or Democrat, first or above the Constitution. Never.

Being faithful to the Constitution first and foremost is the only hope we have at this time, unless you think there's a better tomorrow in anarchy.

So, call me a "hypocrite" for standing for the Constitution. I can live with that.
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Once again, you NEVER mentioned the word "Constitution" in your previous posts in calling for media persons and their employers who don't support the Administration to "not be able to stay active in that nation" and be "booted out of America".

So, go talk with your under 9-year olds, then. Maybe you should.

Amanpour and any other media outlet or person who is legally corporately based in America needs to respect and honor America's Constitution or find someplace else to base themselves. Is that clear enough for you now?? If one receives the benefits of America's Constitution one also needs to respect it one's self.

Understand?

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Wildo7 · 10-08-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

So, go talk with your under 9-year olds, then. Maybe you should.

Amanpour and any other media outlet or person who is legally corporately based in America needs to respect and honor America's Constitution or find someplace to base themselves. Is that clear enough for you now?? If one receives the benefits of America's Constitution one also needs to respect it one's self.

Understand?

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I understand that you changed to the word "constitution" and that you're 100% full of shit. And so would the 9 year olds.

***shmessy*** · 10-08-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildo7

I understand that you changed to the word "constitution" and that you're 100% full of shit. And so would the 9 year olds.

I guess it's hard for Fogbuster. Perhaps he believes whoever is in the Oval Office actually is "The Constitution".

PatriotsReign · 10-08-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

I guess it's hard for Fogbuster. Perhaps he believes whoever is in the Oval Office actually is "The Constitution".

He doesn't understand that our constitution was created so that nothing about our government would ever be treated or looked upon as being sacred.

Foggy apparently disagrees.

Fogbuster · 10-08-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

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Once again, you NEVER mentioned the word "Constitution" in your previous posts in calling for media persons and their employers who don't support the Administration to "not be able to stay active in that nation" and be "booted out of America".

OK, well, now I have.

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***DarrylS*** · 10-08-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Amanpour and any other media outlet or person who is legally corporately based in America needs to respect and honor America's Constitution or find someplace to base themselves. Is that clear enough for you now?? If one receives the benefits of America's Constitution one also needs to respect it one's self.
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How does she disrepect the constitution by expressing her opinion??. last time I looked the constitution protects someone who expresses their opinion.. there are no caveats or qualifiers on this one.. it is what it is..

Fogbuster · 10-08-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GJAJ15

How does she disrepect the constitution by expressing her opinion??. last time I looked the constitution protects someone who expresses their opinion.. there are no caveats or qualifiers on this one.. it is what it is..

Those who accept the rights and protections of someone -- like the U.S. Constitution -- have an obligation to honor it. If they don't then they do not deserve those rights and protections. One of those rights is freedom of speech. If Amanpour does not respect America's Constitution she does not deserve the Consititution's protections.

More than once Amanpour has represented herself on CNN -- a company based in the U.S. and afforded full protection of its rights by the U.S. Constitution -- but she speaks as a "citizen of the world", and questions America's Constitutionally elected government's actions. She crosses the line when she does that. Let her work for BBC or some other network if she doesn't like the Constitutionally elected U.S. government's decisions.

She's not an American citizen and has no stake in America, yet she is protected by the American Constitution because she works for an American company. Her words and actions have to show respect for America's decisions, whether she personally likes them or not, because she is being protected by America and given a world-wide voice because of an American company. So, indeed, love it or leave it applies to non-citizens.

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Wildo7 · 10-08-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Those who accept the rights and protections of someone -- like the U.S. Constitution -- have an obligation to honor it. If they don't then they do not deserve those rights and protections. One of those rights is freedom of speech. If Amanpour does not respect America's Constitution she does not deserve the Consititution's protections.

More than once Amanpour has represented herself on CNN -- a company based in the U.S. and afforded full protection of its rights by the U.S. Constitution -- but she speaks as a "citizen of the world", and questions America's Constitutionally elected government's actions. She crosses the line when she does that. Let her work for BBC or some other network if she doesn't like the Constitutionally elected U.S. government's decisions.

She's not an American citizen and has no stake in America, yet she is protected by the American Constitution because she works for an American company. Her words and actions have to show respect for America's decisions, whether she personally likes them or not, because she is being protected by America and given a world-wide voice because of an American company. So, indeed, love it or leave it applies to non-citizens.

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So "speaking out against America's constitutionally elected government" is "dishonoring the constitution?"

Boy are you confused. There's so many things wrong with what you just said I don't even know where to start.

***shmessy*** · 10-08-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Those who accept the rights and protections of someone -- like the U.S. Constitution -- have an obligation to honor it. If they don't then they do not deserve those rights and protections. One of those rights is freedom of speech. If Amanpour does not respect America's Constitution she does not deserve the Consititution's protections.

More than once Amanpour has represented herself on CNN -- a company based in the U.S. and afforded full protection of its rights by the U.S. Constitution -- but she speaks as a "citizen of the world", and questions America's Constitutionally elected government's actions. She crosses the line when she does that. Let her work for BBC or some other network if she doesn't like the Constitutionally elected U.S. government's decisions.

She's not an American citizen and has no stake in America, yet she is protected by the American Constitution because she works for an American company. Her words and actions have to show respect for America's decisions, whether she personally likes them or not, because she is being protected by America and given a world-wide voice because of an American company. So, indeed, love it or leave it applies to non-citizens.

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You are so confused as to meaning of the Constitution. It's pathetic.

It is not an instrument that condones stifling the opinions of non-citizens at all.

The more you write about your interpretation of the Constitution, the more you exhibit your complete ignorance of its meaning and import.

Fogbuster · 10-08-2008, 03:45 PM

Anyway, all you smart guys have got it all figured out.

So, for the rest of the "full of ****", "pathetic", "ignorant" of the world, the SNL skit was a zinger, but some powers that be in the Democrat power structure wanted it changed because it hit too close to home.

All shall be revealed. Nothing will remain hidden. The truth always wins in the end, and this time will be no exception. In fact, more will be revealed this time than ever before. Rest assured.

Stay tuned.....

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