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who's my "hero?" the guy I'm not even voting for? Well done. Every single issue stance you've advocated on this board is far right, you even have the McCain logo in your sig. The idea that you're a moderate is just laughable. That doesn't undermine your positions, but you should just drop the act.
How many topics are there that are not about YAY OBAMA YAY? If you look you will see that I have said I'm for gay marriage and pro choice in the very few topics not about this election. How conservative does that make me?
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Coded Racism. What a *****ing loser. Obama will probably win but cut out the race baiting crap.
Becuase I stated a historical fact that Hitler was considered a great orator (just like Obama is considered now with teleprompter) he tried to say I "admired" Hitler. He can be so silly.
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And you're not bias towards Obama? OooooooK And how can I be partisan if I have never voted for a Republican for president before the upcoming election?
Actually, I said I was biased. And if you never voted Republican, then you didn't vote or voted for some third party. I won't believe you if you say you voted for Gore or Kerry since you're obviously quite right wing.
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That's what I said. But, I didn't see it that way. I'd like to see where in the debate exactly they think Obama was better. If I had the debate recorded I could show where I though McCain was better.
Oh, we could argue that forever, but in the end it's the impression that people are left with at the end of the debate.
Wow, all the coded racism about him being an "empty suit," "naive," or inexperienced or otherwise unqualified did not work.
Yeah, of course Obama won. I don't think there was much doubt. I think they were pretty close on content, but Obama's clear and concise speaking style contrasted pretty greatly with McCain's muddled and almost rambling style (and I'm a McCain guy). I think it's ridiculous to say that claims about Obama being an empty suit were racist though. Maybe for some, but the majority of people were (and likely still are) concerned with his short time on a national stage. Just because they're criticizing Obama doesn't mean they're racist. I'm not racist, and I'm not voting for him. For many, it's strictly an issues deal.
Becuase I stated a historical fact that Hitler was considered a great orator (just like Obama is considered now with teleprompter) he tried to say I "admired" Hitler. He can be so silly.
We can't say anything negative about Obama or it's "coded racism".
Maybe if I called Patters a man lover that would be "coded gay bashing"
Yeah, of course Obama won. I don't think there was much doubt. I think they were pretty close on content, but Obama's clear and concise speaking style contrasted pretty greatly with McCain's muddled and almost rambling style (and I'm a McCain guy). I think it's ridiculous to say that claims about Obama being an empty suit were racist though. Maybe for some, but the majority of people were (and likely still are) concerned with his short time on a national stage. Just because they're criticizing Obama doesn't mean they're racist. I'm not racist, and I'm not voting for him. For many, it's strictly an issues deal.
Tell me, what do you think the likelihood is that if Obama was white, there would be so many claims against his intelligence (despite his very impressive credentials in that regard)? Do you think if Obama was white he'd be called a Muslim in an accusatory way? Do you think if Obama was white, they'd be raising as many questions about his birth certificate? Do you think if Obama and his minister were white, they would have gotten the same amount of press? Do you think if Obama had been known as a ladies man and had committed adultery to marry his present wife, it wouldn't be a big deal? Do you think if Obama finished 895/899th from his graduating class and McCain finished magna cum laude from Harvard, it wouldn't be a big deal? Do you think if had been Michele Obama, not Palin who gave birth out of wedlock or raised a daughter to do the same, it wouldn't have been a big deal?
That said, of course, there are many, many people who are supporting McCain because of their ideals, and are not at all influenced by race. You may well be one of them, but then again, I don't think you're a major contributor to threads about Obama's religion, his birth certificate, his minister, and the like.
Tell me, what do you think the likelihood is that if Obama was white, there would be so many claims against his intelligence (despite his very impressive credentials in that regard)?
Right because Bush is black right ? He went to Yale and Harvard. But we all say he's as dumb as a rock.
Ross Perot, Al Gore, and John Kerry are among those who were seen by debate watchers in quick reaction polls as having done the better job in the first debate of their campaign year, and all eventually lost their elections."
the thing with al gore is that those who watched the debate thought gore won. those who watched teh pundits thought bush won. mccain doesn't have that advantage.
about kerry - it is true both kerry and obama won the expectations battle based on what the right wingers had been telling everyone about them. however if you look at the electoral maps for kerry on this date in 2004 and obama on this date in 2008 there is a very different picture.
Re: Obama won the debate
And how can I be partisan if I have never voted for a Republican for president before the upcoming election?
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