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Old 09-27-2008, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Where is the "Change" with Obama?

Please convince me how Obama brings change to Washington.

He votes with his party 97% of the time and he picked Joe Biden as a
running mate. Biden has been in Washington for 30+ years.

Obama has the most liberal voting record.

Where is the change?

What is new about Obama, except his race?
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:44 AM   #2
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Please convince me how Obama brings change to Washington.

He votes with his party 97% of the time and he picked Joe Biden as a
running mate. Biden has been in Washington for 30+ years.

Obama has the most liberal voting record.

Where is the change?

What is new about Obama, except his race?
good point. both candidates suck.

no third party will ever gain steam. type in 2008 presidential candidates and it brings up democrats and republicans only.

media controls everyones perception.

there won't be much change from the candidates.

the major change needs to come form the people and people need to get out from under the rock and put down their ipods, put down their beer, put down their american idol, take a break from their kids traveling soccer game and even the NFL or MLB.

the people need to wake up and only when the masses realize they can band together to make change will things actually change.
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No third party will gain steam, because the voting public refuse to vote for them, even when the candidates belief is in line with the voter. When people actually start voting for a third party candidate, they will gain steam.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:48 AM   #4
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No third party will gain steam, because the voting public refuse to vote for them, even when the candidates belief is in line with the voter. When people actually start voting for a third party candidate, they will gain steam.
agree. the media influences people heavily, well at least most people. it's not what is true, it's what is believed.

look at how many lies have been perpetuated by the canddiates about each other and then the media conveys it to the people.

the media is biased without a doubt
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I'm not going to blame the media for this, this falls right on the lap of voters. I've heard the phrase "it would be a wasted vote, if I voted for (insert candidate here) because they have no shot at winning, to blame the media for this.
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Don't ever let the Son Of A B!tching Scumsucking News Media tell you how to vote.
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obama has nothing to run on except "vote for me. i'm not george w bush." mccain pwned obama last night on just about everything. mccain would be up by at least 10 points if it weren't the economy and iraq war. obama brings nothing to the table.
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obama has nothing to run on except "vote for me. i'm not george w bush." mccain pwned obama last night on just about everything. mccain would be up by at least 10 points if it weren't the economy and iraq war. obama brings nothing to the table.
keep drinking the koolaid.
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obama has nothing to run on except "vote for me. i'm not george w bush." mccain pwned obama last night on just about everything. mccain would be up by at least 10 points if it weren't the economy and iraq war. obama brings nothing to the table.
..............................and if Obama was white he'd be up by 20 points. So what's your point again?
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..............................and if Obama was white he'd be up by 20 points. So what's your point again?

That line is real tired ... try this one:
If Obama was closer to the center he would be up by 20 points ... that's reality.
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