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Old 05-19-2013, 06:39 AM   #1
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are you still unclear?

this Guardian story should help, the most succinct and honest version I've seen yet.



Peak oil, climate change and pipeline geopolitics driving Syria conflict | Nafeez Ahmed | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Syria's dash for gas has been spurred by its rapidly declining oil revenues, driven by the peak of its conventional oil production in 1996. Even before the war, the country's rate of oil production had plummeted by nearly half, from a peak of just under 610,000 barrels per day (bpd) to approximately 385,000 bpd in 2010.

Then from 2010 to 2011, the price of wheat doubled - fueled by a combination of extreme weather events linked to climate change, oil price spikes and intensified speculation on food commodities - impacting on Syrian wheat imports. Assad's inability to maintain subsidies due to rapidly declining oil revenues worsened the situation. The food price hikes triggered the protests that evolved into armed rebellion, in response to Assad's indiscriminate violence against demonstrators. ...

The origins of Syria's 'war by proxy' are therefore unmistakeable - the result of converging climate, oil and debt crises within a politically repressive state, the conflict's future continues to be at the mercy of rival foreign geopolitical interests in dominating the energy corridors of the Middle East and North Africa.
Iran wants a pipeline through that country for their new natural gas production, in order to supply Syria, Lebanon, and maybe even parts of Europe. The West wants... for that not to happen.

This is what peak looks like.
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It is always about energy needs... and we follow along.
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Many Americans have died in the pursuit of energy pipelines since Bush 2.
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Oh please. I love the "brought on by climate change" nonsense the best.

So you're saying that a tiny patch of land on the planet is being tapped dry, and therefore it's a sign of global "peak oil". Meanwhile here in the states we keep finding and drilling for more. More oil that likely rests in other parts of the world, that will eventually be found with the newer means of detection, as well as the processes to get it. No **** that specific deposits, when drilled for decades on end, will run dry. This is hardly some example of peak oil on a global scale. It might be peak oil on a Syrian scale. A place with a regressive and oppressive government, crap terrain, a savage to stone aged ideological population, and no discernable economic positive outside of the fluid it can pull out of the ground. Oil is obviously finite. The supply isn't endless. It's not a fruit that can be grown on trees. However, the notion that we're rapidly running out, and the end is near is hysterical propoganda. Akin to Climate Change is some ways. There's no doubt that the world, nations, or people in general need to have a plan in place moving forward, but the end is not near. Well, it might be for these 3rd world hell holes that think their wells will never run dry.
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While they over produced their small shale find, there are also a couple of trillion cuft of Natural gas offshore that the rebels are looking to.

Rebels turning to Syrian energy resources - UPI.com

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Syria's top rebel commander is reportedly seeking Western support for taking over oil fields held by Islamist factions but the real conflict over Syria's energy resources is likely to be vast natural gas fields under the eastern Mediterranean.

Whatever is under the seabed in Syrian waters remains undiscovered but in the wake of major strikes by Israel and Cyprus, and Lebanon supposedly sitting on similar prizes, it's a pretty good bet Syria has significant gas holdings.

There seems little doubt that Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime will eventually be displaced as rebel forces, disunited but backed by most of the Arab powers and, up to a point, the United States and Europe, make steady gains in a war now in its third year.



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I do not want to understand the war in Syria

Thank you for asking
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Thanks for the simplistic view of the war in Syria.

Too bad the problem is much more complicated than some people think it is.
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Many Americans have died in the pursuit of energy pipelines since Bush 2.
Alas, it goes farther back than that really. There is little doubt, however, that our overt activities in promotion of those interests took on a different nature under Dubs.
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Thanks for the simplistic view of the war in Syria.

Too bad the problem is much more complicated than some people think it is.
True ... religious racism is there and will always be there.
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Oh please. I love the "brought on by climate change" nonsense the best.

So you're saying that a tiny patch of land on the planet is being tapped dry, and therefore it's a sign of global "peak oil". Meanwhile here in the states we keep finding and drilling for more. More oil that likely rests in other parts of the world, that will eventually be found with the newer means of detection, as well as the processes to get it. No **** that specific deposits, when drilled for decades on end, will run dry. This is hardly some example of peak oil on a global scale. It might be peak oil on a Syrian scale. A place with a regressive and oppressive government, crap terrain, a savage to stone aged ideological population, and no discernable economic positive outside of the fluid it can pull out of the ground. Oil is obviously finite. The supply isn't endless. It's not a fruit that can be grown on trees. However, the notion that we're rapidly running out, and the end is near is hysterical propoganda. Akin to Climate Change is some ways. There's no doubt that the world, nations, or people in general need to have a plan in place moving forward, but the end is not near. Well, it might be for these 3rd world hell holes that think their wells will never run dry.
It's like the same retarded response from you each time. No one said anything about global oil "rapidly running out," nor is there "hysterical" anything besides from you guys on Team No Problem.

It's about production rates and COST. Saying there's "plenty" doesn't mean the world can afford it nor get it out of the ground fast enough.

Jeezus Kryst. Are you even lucid when you read my posts before you feel compelled to miss the point each and every time?
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