Obamacare Affect - Shift from full-time to part-time labor force - New England Patriots Forums

PatriotsReign · 02-03-2013, 10:41 AM

As employers prepare for Obamacare, they are shifting many full-time jobs to part-time jobs in order to avoid paying fines. We really can't blame these companies for protecting themselves from increasing the cost of labor. Most of us would do the same thing.

Retail Workweek Hits 3-Year Low In ObamaCare Shift

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Although retail payrolls grew by 32,600, total hours worked in the industry dipped, Labor Department data out Friday showed.

The explanation? Rank-and-file retail workers logged the shortest workweek since early 2010: just 30.1 hours, on average, vs. 30.4 in December.

Remarkably, aggregate hours worked in the retail sector fell below their January 2012 level, even though industry payrolls are up 200,000 over that period

So although more people are working, total hours worked has declined. Which means less money is being received by their workers, not more.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 02-03-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

As employers prepare for Obamacare, they are shifting many full-time jobs to part-time jobs in order to avoid paying fines. We really can't blame these companies for protecting themselves from increasing the cost of labor. Most of us would do the same thing.

Before you go saying, "Most of us would do the same thing," please show us some stats which tell us the percentage of employers who are trying to beat the system, so to speak, by forcing employees from full time to part time
status.

Your cited article is chock-full of key words - " may be the start, " "signs suggest that," "It's possible that," "also may be an option, " may potentially be decreased", "before actions it might take," "may hurt those employees' finances" and "they may keep a lid."

None of which is an absolute or based on anything other than conjecture.

***IcyPatriot*** · 02-03-2013, 11:26 AM

Employers have been doing this for quite some time now.

Perhaps more now ??? - but it's been a trend for a while now.

PatriotsReign · 02-03-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

Employers have been doing this for quite some time now.

Perhaps more now ??? - but it's been a trend for a while now.

The point of the article wasn't so much a shift from full-time to part-time, but more that total hours worked is declining despite a slight rise in employment. I believe that IS a recent shift IP.

So we'd have to add another line showing "Total Hours Worked" over time to your graph.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 02-03-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

The point of the article wasn't so much a shift from full-time to part-time,

Yeah....and that's why the title of this thread is "Obamacare Affect - Shift from full-time to part-time labor force."

PatriotsReign · 02-03-2013, 02:09 PM

I would suggest reading the article to anyone who has questions. Not that anyone should have any questions....but you never know.

***IcyPatriot*** · 02-03-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

The point of the article wasn't so much a shift from full-time to part-time, but more that total hours worked is declining despite a slight rise in employment. I believe that IS a recent shift IP.

So we'd have to add another line showing "Total Hours Worked" over time to your graph.

PatriotsReign · 02-03-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

It's been decling steadily as you can see in the chart from the article.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 02-03-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

It's been decling fairly quickly as you can see in the chart from the article.

Wouldn't we have to see what it was for several years prior to 2010 in order to actually draw a conclusion as to Obamacare being the cause?

Maybe it's part of a normal wax and wane - or maybe it's caused by more women in the workplace since women tend to traditionally start/end their careers with voluntary part time work. Maybe every Nov/Dec shows a large uptake in part time work due to seasonal jobs - which again are traditionally part time.

Maybe alot of things, yanno?

Your own article is full of them.

PatriotsReign · 02-03-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Wouldn't we have to see what it was for several years prior to 2010 in order to actually draw a conclusion as to Obamacare being the cause?

Maybe it's part of a normal wax and wane - or maybe it's caused by more women in the workplace since women tend to traditionally start/end their careers with voluntary part time work. Maybe every Nov/Dec shows a large uptake in part time work due to seasonal jobs - which again are traditionally part time.

Maybe alot of things, yanno?

Your own article is full of them.

I have read countless articles with quotes from several companies stating openly they are reducing the number of full-time workers and replacing them with part-time workers to prepare for Obamacare.

This isn't a theory, it's a fact. Of course companies aren't going to allow gov't policy to increase their labor costs, so they are doing the right thing to protect their businesses, their wallets and their share holders.

See for yourself...

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&...w=1280&bih=907