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Old 02-01-2013, 02:22 PM   #21
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To be honest, I'm not sure that anyone here objected to armed police or guards in schools....I think what they protested was armed teachers and armed ancillary school personnel.

But now that you mention it, yeah, I think the school districts ought to have a say in it....that's usually what you conservatives want, isn't it? Smaller government, less federal interference, more states rights and state choice?

Seems kinda funny to me that now, on this matter at least, all the neo-cons are all about fed trump state.

So, I'll ask once again, who pays for it? And how? I like kids. I'm fine with my taxes being increased on either a state or federal level to pay for it - are you?

A coalition of progressive organizations, including the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the Advancement Project, the Alliance for Educational Justice, and the Dignity in Schools Campaign, is arguing that adding additional police officers, including those with guns, to schools throughout the country only further the current ‘school-to-prison’ culture currently found in many of our country’s urban schools.


Read more: NAACP-Led Coalition Opposing Police Presence At Schools | NAACP | Fox Nation


So if these Progressive organizations disagree with what Newton is doing, why don't they speak out and criticize them?
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:28 PM   #22
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So if these Progressive organizations disagree with what Newton is doing, why don't they speak out and criticize them?
I really can't tell if you're being serious with this or this is some kind of attempt at trolling.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:33 PM   #23
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(AP) ATLANTA - A student opened fire at his middle school Thursday afternoon, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to get the gun away, police said.
The armed resource officer who took the gun away was off-duty and at the school, but police didn't release details on him or whether he is regularly at Price.


Police: Teen shot by fellow student at Ga. school - Crimesider - CBS News
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I really can't tell if you're being serious with this or this is some kind of attempt at trolling.

oh, I'm serious. I'm wondering if you actually have something to bring to this discussion or maybe you just like to type.
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oh, I'm serious. I'm wondering if you actually have something to bring to this discussion or maybe you just like to type.
Typically I like to save my prolixity for those who show an ability to reason at or above a high school level.

But for humor's sake if you had to think for a second, if only from a PR perspective, why these organizations would be reluctant to criticize Newtown, what would you come up with?
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Typically I like to save my prolixity for those who show an ability to reason at or above a high school level.

But for humor's sake if you had to think for a second, if only from a PR perspective, why these organizations would be reluctant to criticize Newtown, what would you come up with?

Oh......insulting my intelligence. I see. Well, I've found that people who resort to ad hominems do so out of weakness. Either weakness due to a lack of intelligence or weakness in their argument.

Either way I have no use for people who can't argue without name calling. Plus on this board, I've been told, it is a violation of board rules.

So...go pound sand.
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Oh......insulting my intelligence. I see. Well, I've found that people who resort to ad hominems do so out of weakness. Either weakness due to a lack of intelligence or weakness in their argument.

Either way I have no use for people who can't argue without name calling. Plus on this board, I've been told, it is a violation of board rules.

So...go pound sand.
Name calling, LOL. Time to go spend some time in the real world, my friend.
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I don't know if I am really for or against having police in schools. I do think that it might have prevented the 20 dead school kids in Newton. The killer killed himself as soon as he heard the approach of the police. He obviously did not want a confrontation with other people that were armed (for whatever pyscho reason).


So there is a question of if he would have attacked the school had there been an armed police officer there.

Of course, crazy will be crazy and these type of things will continue to happen. You can't really put a police officer in every movie theater or fast food place and so on.
They are there often already through the DARE program ...

Perhaps more education can be added to it somehow ...

Who knows kids getting to know cops better could help in other areas perhaps???
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A coalition of progressive organizations, including the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the Advancement Project, the Alliance for Educational Justice, and the Dignity in Schools Campaign, is arguing that adding additional police officers, including those with guns, to schools throughout the country only further the current ‘school-to-prison’ culture currently found in many of our country’s urban schools.

It's a bit more complicated than that and they deserve to be heard, too.

They've done their research and they've got their facts and statistics -which is something The NRA doesn't have.

http://www.naacpldf.org/files/public...an.%202013.pdf

I don't know if they're right or they're wrong, but I do know they've done their homework and, as such, have the right to be heard and considered.

At the very least, armed officers in schools shouldn't be an all or nothing solution. Each individual school should have several options available to them.
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They are there often already through the DARE program ...

Perhaps more education can be added to it somehow ...

Who knows kids getting to know cops better could help in other areas perhaps???
Back in my yute, we called them pigs...as in...

"RUN!! It's the pigs!" and I got caught more than once! Got whacked & locked up for the night too!

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