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Claremonster · 01-20-2013, 10:20 PM

Say that you gun grabbing socialists do get your gun ban. Guns are illegal, just like drugs.

Do you still see or hear about drugs in this country? Of course you do. All banning does is create a black market for the banned item (driving up the demand and the prices). That and more of the banned items will be in the hands of the "criminals" instead of law abiding citizens.

Banning guns will never work like you think it will. There will be more violence after that. In fact, most likely, much more violence because of the fact that the criminals will have them instead of the law abiding citizens.

By passing these communistic laws, it could even bring forth a major civil/race war right in your back door.

***DarrylS*** · 01-21-2013, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Claremonster

Say that you gun grabbing socialists do get your gun ban. Guns are illegal, just like drugs.

Do you still see or hear about drugs in this country? Of course you do. All banning does is create a black market for the banned item (driving up the demand and the prices). That and more of the banned items will be in the hands of the "criminals" instead of law abiding citizens.

Banning guns will never work like you think it will. There will be more violence after that. In fact, most likely, much more violence because of the fact that the criminals will have them instead of the law abiding citizens.

By passing these communistic laws, it could even bring forth a major civil/race war right in your back door.

You obviously do not understand the argument or proposal, instead relying on hysteria..

Will not go into the details as it would be pearls to swine, so just go to Breitbart as they know the truth..

Select folks are content with essentially comparing a country that has one foot into the third world to the US.. poor comparison at best.

***Harry Boy*** · 01-21-2013, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Claremonster

Say that you gun grabbing socialists do get your gun ban. Guns are illegal, just like drugs.

Do you still see or hear about drugs in this country? Of course you do. All banning does is create a black market for the banned item (driving up the demand and the prices). That and more of the banned items will be in the hands of the "criminals" instead of law abiding citizens.

Banning guns will never work like you think it will. There will be more violence after that. In fact, most likely, much more violence because of the fact that the criminals will have them instead of the law abiding citizens.

By passing these communistic laws, it could even bring forth a major civil/race war right in your back door.

Exactly that is exactly what will happen but then The Left Wing Obama Media will stop reporting the killings they won't want you to know about them or how their sappy gun laws failed instead they will be blabbing about that Junkie Armstorng Guy And His Bike and Michelles Hair.

Liberals Are All Nuts (butterfly chashers) they insist on forcing their will on everybody, they despise many of our freedoms, if their gun law passes many of them will be shot because every maggot criminal in America will have a gun.

***DarrylS*** · 01-21-2013, 09:27 AM

***DarrylS*** · 01-21-2013, 09:37 AM

And in breaking news a 15 year old boy, gets an unsecured automatic weapon and slices and dices mom, dad and three siblings.. nothing to see here folks it is all part of another day of carnage in america.

Christianity Today Gleanings: Teenage Son Kills Former Calvary Chapel Pastor and Four Other Family Members

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New Mexico teenager has been accused of murdering his pastor father, his mother, and three of his nine siblings on Saturday night in Albuquerque.

Nehemiah Griego, 15, was arrested after allegedly shooting his father, former Calvary Albuquerque pastor Gregory Griego, as well as four other family members—presumed to be his mother and three elementary-school-aged siblings—with an assault rifle at their Albuquerque home. Griego took a leave of absence from the church, one of New Mexico's largest, last year.

PatsFanLisa · 01-21-2013, 06:15 PM

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Exactly that is exactly what will happen but then The Left Wing Obama Media will stop reporting the killings they won't want you to know about them or how their sappy gun laws failed instead they will be blabbing about that Junkie Armstorng Guy And His Bike and Michelles Hair.

Liberals Are All Nuts (butterfly chashers) they insist on forcing their will on everybody, they despise many of our freedoms, if their gun law passes many of them will be shot because every maggot criminal in America will have a gun.

Unlike you, for instance? Talk about extremism and hysteria. However, every American that wants to own a gun will own a gun lawfully. Nothing has or will change. Do you think we're going to get 300 million guns out of circulation? However, if you want to think that anyone wants to take away your right to legally own a firearm, then go right ahead and keep perpetuating the hysteria.

RI Patriots fan · 01-21-2013, 10:06 PM

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And the gun would have jammed regardless of who he was firing it at - students or deputy.

And students were evacuated from Sandy Hook, too. Before Adam shot himself.

Nothing that didn't actually happen is "certain." What is more probable, however, is that if the loophole which allows people to buy guns without background checks and then turn around and give them to people who aren't supposed to have them were closed they wouldn't have had the guns in the first place.

Daily Kos: A Brief Diary re: Columbine & the Assault Rifle Ban

Guns jam for all sorts of reasons. There is no reason to believe that it would have jammed "regardless". Even if the gun would have jammed, the rounds that were exchanged between the security guard and the assailant could have easily been used to shoot victims instead.

"The 22 year old man who provided one of the guns fired by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in the Columbine High School massacre was sentenced Friday to six years in prison. Manes received six years in prison for selling a weapon to a minor and three years for possessing a sawedoff shotgun. The sentences will run concurrently.
Manes mother broke down in tears when he was handcuffed and escorted out of court. But family members of the victims applauded. Justice was served."

Gun provider sentenced to 6 years in Columbine case - CNN

***DarrylS*** · 01-22-2013, 05:25 AM

As the events in Albuquerque unfold, more information comes to light.. the shooter Nehemiah, was homeschooled and there was no one to possibly identify this kid was troubled, apparently after killing his family was going to fight the world with the weapons he had access to.

Once again unsecured weapons are the culprit, parents apparently kept the guns in a closet.. he took a .22 and killed his mom and three siblings as they slept, then took the AR 15 and sliced and diced dad when he came home..

Father was a christian pastor...

New Mexico homeschooled teen Nehemiah Griego accused of murdering family, planned to keep killing at local Walmart - NY Daily News

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The New Mexico teen accused of gunning down his younger siblings, his mom and his pastor father reportedly planned on continuing his killing spree at a local Walmart.

Nehemiah Griego, 15, had loaded up his family van with "several" guns that he intended to use to slaughter customers at the nearby shopping center, the Albuquerque Journal reported Monday.

Griego hoped to die in a shootout with cops, sources told the paper.
But he was talked out of the plan by a friend, who convinced him over the phone to meet him at his father’s church, the paper said.

He eventually told a church security guard about the crime, and the retired cop called 911, the report said.

***DarrylS*** · 01-23-2013, 05:10 AM

This kid was planning on killing his girlfriend's family and then going down to wal mart for some more killing with his automatic weapons.. after he spent the day with his 12 year old girlfriend, while his family were all dead..

New Mexico Teen Who Killed Family Planned to Shoot Up Walmart: Cops - ABC News

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Police said they are also considering charging the shooter's 12-year-old girlfriend.

According to new information released by police today, Nehemiah Griego, the 15-year-old son of an Albuquerque pastor, had plans to kill his family, his girlfriend's family, and local Walmart shoppers for weeks before he acted on the impulse on Sunday.

"Nehemiah said after killing five of his family members he reloaded the weapons so that he could drive to a populated area to murder more people," a police report from the incident stated.

The complaint said Griego took a photo of his dead mother and "sent it to his girlfriend."

Griego then packed up the guns, including two shotguns, as well as ammunition for the rifles, and planned to drive to a Walmart to shoot additional people.

Houston said today that Griego called his 12-year-old girlfriend Sunday and ended up spending the entire day with her rather than going to the Walmart. Around 8 p.m. on Sunday, the pair drove to Calvary Church, and Griego said his family had died in a car crash. Someone on the church's staff then called 911, Houston said.

Charlotte Pats Fan · 01-23-2013, 09:23 AM

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This kid was planning on killing his girlfriend's family and then going down to wal mart for some more killing with his automatic weapons.. after he spent the day with his 12 year old girlfriend, while his family were all dead..

New Mexico Teen Who Killed Family Planned to Shoot Up Walmart: Cops - ABC News

I see you still can't grasp the differences between a semi-automatic and an automatic weapon. No that I'm suprised.