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NFL_Truth · 10-30-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetssuck

Agreed prohibitted beginning in 2006.

Filming not going to be tolerated anymore is why the memo was issued.

No, not begining, it never had been tolerated. They just never caught anyone and the memo was a reminder for the Pats to knock it off. NFL didnt want a scandal, but the Patriots desire to continue forced the issue.

***LeonPowe*** · 10-30-2008, 01:56 PM

You're dancing more than Maroney when it comes to this. The memo was sent out, the Pats didn't knock it off, so they deserved to be punished. ALL OF THIS AFTER THE 3 SUPER BOWL WINS.

Jetssuck · 10-30-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NFL_Truth

No, not begining, it never had been tolerated. They just never caught anyone and the memo was a reminder for the Pats to knock it off. NFL didnt want a scandal, but the Patriots desire to continue forced the issue.

They never tried to catch anyone. If they did want to catch someone they wouldn't be issuing memos to give a team a chance to destroy all the evidence.

If the NFL was so fearfull of a scandal they would have left things the way they were before 2006 and not advertize this to the whole country.

NFL_Truth · 10-30-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonPowe

You're dancing more than Maroney when it comes to this. The memo was sent out, the Pats didn't knock it off, so they deserved to be punished. ALL OF THIS AFTER THE 3 SUPER BOWL WINS.

True, but they did cheat during all 3 super Bowl wins as admitted by your head coach.

NFL_Truth · 10-30-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetssuck

They never tried to catch anyone. If they did want to catch someone they wouldn't be issuing memos to give a team a chance to destroy all the evidence.

If the NFL was so fearfull of a scandal they would have left things the way they were before 2006 and not advertize this to the whole country.

I'm not saying they didnt care at all. no no. they didnt want anyone cheating, they knew of rumors but had no proof, gave the pats another chance, but the pats continued and got caught.

Jetssuck · 10-30-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NFL_Truth

I'm not saying they didnt care at all. no no. they didnt want anyone cheating, they knew of rumors but had no proof, gave the pats another chance, but the pats continued and got caught.

So they did knowingly allow the Pats to "cheat" before the memo. Allow = not forbid = videotapping permitted before 2006. Thanks for finally conceeding my point. The memo was a warning that it would not be permitted any longer and what happened before 2006 didn't matter.

NFL_Truth · 10-30-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetssuck

So they did knowingly allow the Pats to "cheat" before the memo. Allow = not forbid = videotapping permitted before 2006. Thanks for finally conceeding my point. The memo was a warning that it would not be permitted any longer and what happened before 2006 didn't matter.

They did not knowingly allow them to cheat. They knew of rumors that only later proved to be true. They gave a warning to try to get the pats to stop but the continued. Of course knowingly breaking the rules before 2006 matters.

Jetssuck · 10-30-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NFL_Truth

They did not knowingly allow them to cheat. They knew of rumors that only later proved to be true. They gave a warning to try to get the pats to stop but the continued. Of course knowingly breaking the rules before 2006 matters.

You say something different every post. One post you claimed the league knew about it for years now you say they didn't.

If knowingly breaking the rules that were different before the 2006 memo mattered Jimmie Johnson and the cowboys would have been investigated.

The memo was issued to the WHOLE LEAGUE that filming wouldn't be tolerated any longer. Do you understand English?

NFL_Truth · 10-30-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetssuck

You say something different every post. One post you claimed the league knew about it for years now you say they didn't.

If knowingly breaking the rules that were different before the 2006 memo mattered Jimmie Johnson and the cowboys would have been investigated.

The memo was issued to the WHOLE LEAGUE that filming wouldn't be tolerated any longer. Do you understand English?

You can't change the word from "prohibited" to "tolerated" and think you've won the debate. Its never been tolerated.

I didn't say the league didn't know about it, they knew about rumors only later to be confirmed. There has not been a switch on this position.

Jetssuck · 10-30-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NFL_Truth

You can't change the word from "prohibited" to "tolerated" and think you've won the debate. Its never been tolerated.

I didn't say the league didn't know about it, they knew about rumors only later to be confirmed. There has not been a switch on this position.

And why didn't they set up a sting without a memo if illegal "cheating" was going on. The memo was a warning that the league would no longer tolerate filming. Just as 2004's memo was a warning that the league would no longer allow pass inteference beyond 5 yards of scrimmage. 2004's memo had no relevance before 2004 and 2006's memo has no relevance before 2006.