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Old 10-30-2008, 12:25 PM   #11
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Wow, you'll probably only hear this once, but that was the best defense I've ever heard. Even though im certain we disagree Watson, you are certainly an educated fan and I respect that. A great deal of what you said is certainly true. I think where we disagree is in the value and advantage the tapes had. I think its more, I'm assuming you think its less, but thats the best argument I've heard yet.

Personally, I feel Belichick is a football genius. I don't like him but i have to give the devil his due. And i just dont see a man of his intelligence set up this camera scenario, which he would have been smart enough to see that it could bring fourth great consequence, without it having a major benifit factor. Belichick is a smart man who would weigh risk vs. reward. If they would have won all 3 SB's without it, he wouldn't bother. He wouldnt waste time to do something that he wouldn't need to win.

But regardless of our different opinions, your analyzation of the situation proves that if nothing else you know what your talking about. People can analyze these comments however they chose but I do respect your method of observation.
See my post in the other thread, I responded directly to the questions you raised.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:27 PM   #12
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See my post in the other thread, I responded directly to the questions you raised.
I just wrote back to it.
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Nice article but that does not make the author any more qualified to comment on the value of something NE fought so hard to do. That article is no more qualified then the link I sent you.

Hope you guys took time and enjoyed reading it.
What qualifications are you looking for in an author?

I like to know what your qualifications are beyond being an angry ignoramus?

You don't know that a 2006 memo has no bearing on what happened before 2006. Yet, your a self-proclaimed knowledgable football guy.
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What qualifications are you looking for in an author?

I like to know what your qualifications are beyond being an angry ignoramus?

You don't know that a 2006 memo has no bearing on what happened before 2006. Yet, your a self-proclaimed knowledgable football guy.
Its not the memo that has bearing on what happened before 2006, its the breaking of the rules from 2000-2007 that has the effect. The memo was just an example of how the Pats ignored the rules even when reminded.
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Its not the memo that has bearing on what happened before 2006, its the breaking of the rules from 2000-2007 that has the effect. The memo was just an example of how the Pats ignored the rules even when reminded.
Funny how you like to never answer one question ever asked of you. If they were breaking the rules their would be no need of a memo. Just order an investigation at the first accusation.
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Funny how you like to never answer one question ever asked of you. If they were breaking the rules their would be no need of a memo. Just order an investigation at the first accusation.
Do you deny the fact that Belichick admitted to goodell that his videotaping policy had been in place since he became the head coach?
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Do you deny the fact that Belichick admitted to goodell that his videotaping policy had been in place since he became the head coach?
No I don't deny. But what is the relevance of that fact? The memo was issued in 2006 for the purpose to give warning to all 32 teams that filming such and such was no longer going to be tolerated. No longer tolerated = no longer allowed = allowed before 2006.
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No I don't deny. But what is the relevance of that fact? The memo was issued in 2006 for the purpose to give warning to all 32 teams that filming such and such was no longer going to be tolerated. No longer tolerated = no longer allowed = allowed before 2006.
Where does this say tolerated?

2006 NFL Memo:

"videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

Sounds like prohibited, not tolerated.
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Agreed. If the rule was clear, then they would have been punished right away, no memo would be needed.
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Where does this say tolerated?

2006 NFL Memo:

"videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

Sounds like prohibited, not tolerated.
Agreed prohibitted beginning in 2006.

Filming not going to be tolerated anymore is why the memo was issued.
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