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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
Not identical to first one, but caused by first one. If he hadn't had that original break, this one wouldn't have happened. These osteopermissive bone cements they use, in my experience, can take a few months for the bone to truly grow into the cement where the bone screws are placed. Maybe they didn't use any bone cement. Plus, I do my work with rats, not humans
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by DaBruinz
I gotta love all the negative speculation from long time posters who have, suddenly, become medical experts.
Personally, I don't understand why they used a plate instead of using a titanium rod down the length of the bone. The rod would have made it much less likely for any further damage. I also don't understand why the plate didn't run the entire length of the bone to ensure that something like this wouldn't happen. Especially if they know that the plate creates a weak spot in the bone right at the end of the plate.
People saying that Gronk didn't land all that hard really don't know what they are talking about. You had a 270 lb man go 5 or 6 feet into the air and come down with nearly his entire weight on his arm. That's a lot of force even with that protective sleeve on it.
Finally, I hope that the surgery to fix the new break was done differently so that the bone isn't compromised further. I want to see Gronk on the sidelines for the big one after the Pats take care of business this weekend.
You forgot all that weight went down on a very hard surface... the surface they use has some padding but not all that much..
I do think he could benefit from martial arts or similar training to learn how to fall beter..
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by DaBruinz
I gotta love all the negative speculation from long time posters who have, suddenly, become medical experts.
Personally, I don't understand why they used a plate instead of using a titanium rod down the length of the bone. The rod would have made it much less likely for any further damage. I also don't understand why the plate didn't run the entire length of the bone to ensure that something like this wouldn't happen. Especially if they know that the plate creates a weak spot in the bone right at the end of the plate.
People saying that Gronk didn't land all that hard really don't know what they are talking about. You had a 270 lb man go 5 or 6 feet into the air and come down with nearly his entire weight on his arm. That's a lot of force even with that protective sleeve on it.
Finally, I hope that the surgery to fix the new break was done differently so that the bone isn't compromised further. I want to see Gronk on the sidelines for the big one after the Pats take care of business this weekend.
Wait, so you chastise everyone who is skeptical of the report and then offer up your own medical opinion on it?
Come on, we're all capable of using logic. If you can find me a situation comparable to the one Gronkowski went through, fine. But until then, I'll maintain the medical staff probably made some mistakes, and I'm forever skeptical of Gill after some similarly controversial stuff with the Sox.
The fact is, let's remember the source. Curran obviously has a source friendly to the team doctor - doesn't anyone remember what he was writing around the time of the Brady ACL stuff? How Brady's knee was in danger, how he didn't go through the team doctor, how Brady had awful MRSA and was never going to play again? How Brady would be lucky if he could walk on the damn thing before it was eaten away by infection? And what a fool his doctor out in LA was...it was all pro-Pats-med-staff, and none of it panned out.
Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by BradyManny
Come on, we're all capable of using logic. If you can find me a situation comparable to the one Gronkowski went through, fine. But until then, I'll maintain the medical staff probably made some mistakes
Not sure how this squares with your earlier post in this thread that it was simply unlucky and that's football?
I think you were probably more on target before than here.
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by aluminum seats
Not sure how this squares with your earlier post in this thread that it was simply unlucky and that's football?
I think you were probably more on target before than here.
I don't recall this post. I've said that there was probably mistakes made, unfortunately.
I'm obviously no medical expert, but I watch a lot of football (that's my version of "I stayed at a Holiday Inn"), and can't remember a broken arm in mid November derailing a guy's season through the postseason and potentially the SB. That's all I'm saying. If someone out there can cite this happening before, I'll lay off the medical staff. Until then, I'm not buying what Curran is feeding us.
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by dannydyn
Absolutely... he could have gone to win the Superbowl, and break his forearm in the off-season, hand-spinning one of his porn star girlfriends.... But, no, it had to be on his first reception attempt of the post season....
Hope this double-fracture doesn't compromise his playing abilities down the road.
Well I for one will be wicked pissed if he breaks it again this summer hand-spinning a chunky porn starlet
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by BradyManny
I don't recall this post. I've said that there was probably mistakes made, unfortunately.
I'm obviously no medical expert, but I watch a lot of football (that's my version of "I stayed at a Holiday Inn"), and can't remember a broken arm in mid November derailing a guy's season through the postseason and potentially the SB. That's all I'm saying. If someone out there can cite this happening before, I'll lay off the medical staff. Until then, I'm not buying what Curran is feeding us.
My bad. That was "Brady to Moss," not you.
But anyway, his broken arm didn't derail him to through the playoffs, really--it almost certainly wasn't 100 percent, but it just got messed up again.
As you say, I'm no expert either, but it seems to me that this can just be filed under "one of those things." The Pats should always continue to monitor all aspects of the organization, of course, including the medical staff.
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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Originally Posted by RayClay
It might be a good idea for Gronk to practice playing more conservatively, or learning to roll/fall (martial arts?) He might just be too damn athletic for someone that size/weight.
It's about production, not about fantastic athleticism. Learning to be as productive while not putting himself at risk as much (I'm thinking about the self imposed piledriver/flip from last year) might be a maturing process on the way to a long, productive career.
That's a good idea. I believe certain martial arts like judo they teach you how to throw people as well as how to fall correctly to minimize damage to yourself.
Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
Some of you might not find this interesting at all, but oh well.... The first Attached is a pic from the website mentioned of a forearm break with a plate and the second is of a xray of when my dog shattered her leg.
I thought that they looked similar so I thought I would share
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Re: Source: Gronkowski break not identical to first one
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