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You started off real well and then went down-hill the rest of the way.
You know one of the smartest things anyone ever told me is that in any sentence you speak; if you use the words ALWAYS or NEVER you are already WRONG. ('not being happy unless' is tantamount / OP seems to wants to tar some folks that way).
The MAIN POINT of this thread and my MAIN OBJECTION to it; is that it seems to be the epitome of the LORD's PROPRIETY PATROL group. You know the self-appointed board-nazi type who want to tell everyone else not only how they can express themselves, but even how to think.
I seriously doubt that any REAL POSTER (rather then a JESTER POSER) posts constant negativity and is always a Debbie DOWNER. Let me clue you all in on something: Every poster is physically capable of writing a negative post in ONE THREAD; and post a laudatory one IN ANOTHER, within 30 seconds.
(putting on my rose-colored memory glasses).....When I first joined this board back in 2000 (coming over from ESPN pages because they were full of a bunch of back-biting egomaniacs); this was like coming to a FAMILY FORUM page. We even had a crazy uncle (nem). And despite disagreements folks and the mods kept things within certain boundaries, newbies felt welcome joining, the technical discussion level was high in threads, but there was room for all types of posts and threads, even a rant if you had a bad day.
Now the number of times I see posters (often guys with join dates post 2007 or later who have higher post counts than I because they post a lot) who call out for the mods to DELETE THIS THREAD or to tell someone else they CAN'T EXPRESS AN OPINION seems to be RISING DRAMATICALLY HERE.
So, if someone wants to come here and feel like he is sitting down at the corner pub on a barstool with his 2 best friends and moan a little about the pats safety inadequacies in one minute (one thread); and talk about Stallworths beautiful catch and run in the next minute (another thread/post); LET's CUT THEM SOME SLACK.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN PEOPLE!!!!!!!
This is the best post evah!! Sums up my sentiments exactly.
Down with the board Nazi's. And the bored Nazi's.
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This here is the issue. Setting unreasonable expectations. For many everyone of the last 8 seasons are failures, which is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Dutchmaster617
Its unreasonable to finish the usual 8-10 game win streak with say, idk, maybe just 3 playoff wins?
Beating the Giants team most people beat is unreasonable? Why even pay high ticket prices then if we can't expect the team to play how it can.
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Originally Posted by shmessy
Can we get a clearer translation of that one please?
Here ya go, Pal:
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Originally Posted by lamafist
I understand wanting to vent when the Pats lose, it's possible to be angry with(out) being angry at someone. Learning that distinction is generally considered part of developing from adolescence to adulthood, and not too much to expect from each other, isn't it?
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Yes it is. And all those trolls and bashers took away the fun for a lot of people on the board because they mercilessly trashed the team.
You don't have to read the thread if it's not fun for you. I gave up reading the game day threads ages ago because all of the trolls and bashers. I got tired of every dropped pass being commented on with 3 "Welker sucks" or "thank god we didn't give him a long term deal", or every completed pass with a comment like "McCourty can't cover my Grandma". It wears you down. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN PEOPLE!!!!!! LET'S CUT THEM SOME SLACK!
So if you don't like it you might consider:
1. Don't keep coming back to a thread that irritates you.
2. Put people that irritate you on ignore.
3. Take a mental health break from the board.
I've had to do all of those at times this season because of the effect of guys like you. Thanks for making the board a fun experience for me.
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By 'calling out' the negative people you're just keeping the cycle going and distracting us all from what is important. (Hint: It's not words on an internet forum by a random poster.)
And to be fair, I prefer negativity to 'I told you so!'
I commented as a newcomer that this board sometimes offers more whining about the whining than it does actual whining. This thread is another example.
I think every fan has a right to offer their opinion here, no matter who does or doesn't like them. The same goes for booing the players at the games. They are all players in a game that we pay to see for enjoyment. Save the hero worship for someone more worthy.
You started off real well and then went down-hill the rest of the way.
You know one of the smartest things anyone ever told me is that in any sentence you speak; if you use the words ALWAYS or NEVER you are already WRONG. ('not being happy unless' is tantamount / OP seems to wants to tar some folks that way).
The MAIN POINT of this thread and my MAIN OBJECTION to it; is that it seems to be the epitome of the LORD's PROPRIETY PATROL group. You know the self-appointed board-nazi type who want to tell everyone else not only how they can express themselves, but even how to think.
I seriously doubt that any REAL POSTER (rather then a JESTER POSER) posts constant negativity and is always a Debbie DOWNER. Let me clue you all in on something: Every poster is physically capable of writing a negative post in ONE THREAD; and post a laudatory one IN ANOTHER, within 30 seconds.
(putting on my rose-colored memory glasses).....When I first joined this board back in 2000 (coming over from ESPN pages because they were full of a bunch of back-biting egomaniacs); this was like coming to a FAMILY FORUM page. We even had a crazy uncle (nem). And despite disagreements folks and the mods kept things within certain boundaries, newbies felt welcome joining, the technical discussion level was high in threads, but there was room for all types of posts and threads, even a rant if you had a bad day.
Now the number of times I see posters (often guys with join dates post 2007 or later who have higher post counts than I because they post a lot) who call out for the mods to DELETE THIS THREAD or to tell someone else they CAN'T EXPRESS AN OPINION seems to be RISING DRAMATICALLY HERE.
So, if someone wants to come here and feel like he is sitting down at the corner pub on a barstool with his 2 best friends and moan a little about the pats safety inadequacies in one minute (one thread); and talk about Stallworths beautiful catch and run in the next minute (another thread/post); LET's CUT THEM SOME SLACK.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN PEOPLE!!!!!!!
A couple of suggestions.
1. Try to restrain the upper-case bold shouting until you've got something positive to contribute.
2. Some people are sensitive to being called Nazis.
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Well, the issue, as you frame it, starts by deciding what's unreasonable. That's certainly an area with room for dispute but, again, it's reasonable to have lofty expectations for this Patriots team.
Personally, I think making the playoffs and reasonably competing for a superbowl are as lofty as anyone should expect. Anything more is just unreasonable. As has been noted, especially by you, there are lots of successful teams out there and there are many different ways to win a superbowl. The Patriots don't have some god given right to it, where if they fail its because Belichick/Brady/Welker/Secondary/etc sucked or were chokers. You can still be a good team and not win the superbowl. You can still have a successful season and not win the superbowl.
Some people seem so fixated on winning the superbowl that they simply can't enjoy the season. Mayo's examples of quotes after the Jets/Bills close games are case in point. They can't enjoy the win because the team has flaws and it jeopardizes the Patriots chances to win the superbowl! They fail to realize that its a process. How they play in September, October, November or even December doesn't really mean much other than the W or the L. Houston, Atlanta, Chicago and Baltimore fans can attest to that.
What makes it even more laughable is that people are suddenly gung ho after this blow out win, but it means just as much as the ugly overtime Jets win or the close Bills win. They had a good game plan against Houston, matched up well and executed. If people think they are now suddenly some unrelenting Juggernaut that is more likely to win the superbowl than not then they are only just fooling themselves.
Having said that, the standards here are high. And they should be. I will extremely disappointed if the Pats don't win a Super Bowl this year. Whether it will make the season a "failure" is maybe a pointless exercise in the semantics of the thing. But the Pats have been crowned by too many people the last couple of Decembers. Remember 45-3?
In the first few sentences you say that you will be "extremely disappointed" if the Pats don't win the superbowl. In the last you point out how silly that really is. I really don't understand why your expectations are set so high. There are lots of good quarterbacks, coaches and teams in this league. All of them have relatively equal shots of getting to and winning the superbowl, which means that individually, none have great odds to do so. The Pats, like all teams, have their flaws. The Pats, like all teams, get injuries to key players. The Pats, like all teams, fail to execute at times. The Pats, like all teams, sometimes just don't have the ball bounce their way. It's happens.