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Old 12-11-2012, 01:23 PM   #41
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Count me among those who wonder why you'd want to have a thread like this after a good win--particularly one that required so much effort/research on your part. At what point during the game yesterday did your mind go toward insufficiently (in your mind) supportive fans?

There are lots and lots of posters here, and obviously calling the Pats "garbage" is absurd. So what? Let it go.

On the merits of the win, I'll say this. It was very satifying. The Pats have gives us an enormous amount of pleasure over the years, and every season--every game--should be enjoyed.

Having said that, the standards here are high. And they should be. I will extremely disappointed if the Pats don't win a Super Bowl this year. Whether it will make the season a "failure" is maybe a pointless exercise in the semantics of the thing. But the Pats have been crowned by too many people the last couple of Decembers. Remember 45-3?
There's one of these threads after every win. For some, criticising other fans seem to be the most satisfying response to celebrating a win. Personally, I'd rather talk about the team but hey ho!
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:24 PM   #42
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This here is the issue. Setting unreasonable expectations. For many everyone of the last 8 seasons are failures, which is ridiculous.
Its unreasonable to finish the usual 8-10 game win streak with say, idk, maybe just 3 playoff wins?

Beating the Giants team most people beat is unreasonable? Why even pay high ticket prices then if we can't expect the team to play how it can.
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Prefer here doesn't imply like.

For example I prefer your posts to having my nuts crushed with rocks by shrieking women. It's not that I like your posts, it just beats the alternative in this scenario.

Man I HATE it when that happens.

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Beating the Giants team most people beat is unreasonable?
Can we get a clearer translation of that one please?
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To really how great this run is, many fans should have lived through the 90's when this franchise was the laughing stock of the league.. we sucked in all areas of the game.

Was just listening to Ordway ranting and raving about how we as fans and lot of the mediots were whining and bytching when the team was 3-3, we should know better and the adage of the season really begins at Thanksgiving is true..

Shame on all of us, we should know better.. this team with BB, his lieutenants, #12 and his supporting cast and Big Vince, Mayo and their posse are not going to suck the whole season.. we have consistently played better and last night we held a very good offense in check.

Weren't we starting 5 rookies on defense at one time this season, and our D backfield totalled less than 5 years experience total...

Be patient all, it is a journey not one game.. we will get to the promised land again, and then the season really begins.. there will be baptisms in the font at Gillette next Sunday Night around 8"30 PM... you have to believe.
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Prefer here doesn't imply like.

For example I prefer your posts to having my nuts crushed with rocks by shrieking women. It's not that I like your posts, it just beats the alternative in this scenario.
Lars Von Trier fan, eh?
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Lars Von Trier fan, eh?
Sorry, is that a rap guy? I don't like rap. Nothing but clicks and whistles.
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I just wish that the less sanguine among us could tone down the disproportionate sense of outrage and scorn a bit.

One can be pessimistic about the team's prospects without declaring things "inexcusable" or "unacceptable." You can be disappointed by the team's performance without declaring it "pathetic" and casting aspersions on the team's heart and character (which are never here nor there anyway.)

It's one thing to have criticisms and doubts, but the amount of anger and indignation heaped on a team that's given us an unprecedented decade of consistent excellence is more than a little ridiculous.

For example, since Rodney Harrison, the team has not gotten much return on investment at the safety position, and this has been a big part of the problem for the Pats' defenses in recent years. Merriweather and Chung did not develop as we'd hoped, and our free agent acquisitions have failed to pan out.

That is a fair criticism of the team. It doesn't mean that BB or the front office is incompetent. Player acquisition is always more hit than miss, and on the whole they do a better job of it than any other team. It also doesn't make Merriweather or Chung punks who don't care about football or even just "pathetic" football players -- they may just be better suited for another scheme, and even if not, they're still better than 99.99% of the people who'd want their jobs.

I understand wanting to vent when the Pats lose, it's possible to be angry with being angry at someone. Learning that distinction is generally considered part of developing from adolescence to adulthood, and not too much to expect from each other, isn't it?
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Sorry, is that a rap guy? I don't like rap. Nothing but clicks and whistles.
Nope. He's waaaaay to misogynistic for hip hop.
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I just wish that the less sanguine among us could tone down the disproportionate sense of outrage and scorn a bit.

One can be pessimistic about the team's prospects without declaring things "inexcusable" or "unacceptable." You can be disappointed by the team's performance without declaring it "pathetic" and casting aspersions on the team's heart and character (which are never here nor there anyway.)

It's one thing to have criticisms and doubts, but the amount of anger and indignation heaped on a team that's given us an unprecedented decade of consistent excellence is more than a little ridiculous.

For example, since Rodney Harrison, the team has not gotten much return on investment at the safety position, and this has been a big part of the problem for the Pats' defenses in recent years. Merriweather and Chung did not develop as we'd hoped, and our free agent acquisitions have failed to pan out.

That is a fair criticism of the team. It doesn't mean that BB or the front office is incompetent. Player acquisition is always more hit than miss, and on the whole they do a better job of it than any other team. It also doesn't make Merriweather or Chung punks who don't care about football or even just "pathetic" football players -- they may just be better suited for another scheme, and even if not, they're still better than 99.99% of the people who'd want their jobs.

I understand wanting to vent when the Pats lose, it's possible to be angry with being angry at someone. Learning that distinction is generally considered part of developing from adolescence to adulthood, and not too much to expect from each other, isn't it?
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