The Official B!tch about the secondary/pass coverage thread

[aluminum seats]

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

The OL has not been anything near a weak spot as the secondary is

The Pats simply have failed at drafting or picking up a talented player at Safety or Corner for many years now

You're completely missing the point. One of the reasons WHY the OL has not been "anythng near a weak spot as the secondary" is because of the coaching.

If the quality of the coaching between the OL and secondary were reversed, we'd be having the same conversation about the O-line: "Why can't the Pats draft good offensive lineman? They've sucked for years! They never go on to be stars anywhere else! Look what Dante's done with the secondary!"

[Bobs My Uncle]

The frustrating thing is the Pats, for whatever reasons, can't draft/develop corners. Therefore, if they wish to improve upon a position that has been dreadful for 5 years now, they are going to have to sign a FA. And that is going to be very costly.

Which FA corners are out there this offseason?

[MossWelkowski]

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

What is sad is even if the team has 2 good games against the Jets and Rams,Is it really going to change the problems or more likely,just delay them until the next solid team arrives?

This team appears once again to be able to beat the Sisters Of The Poor and fall to good teams.

If this team was 5-1 that would be good to say. I want wins right now.. I don't give a rat's ass if its 41-38 or 15-12 anymore.a

[blackglass3]

Originally Posted by upstater1

Except none of that happened. What happened is that Capers had bigger jobs waiting for him.

That's not how I remember it going down, but I could be wrong.

[cstjohn17]

My daughter (5), son (7) and wife all said "Why would Seattle run the ball? Everytime they pass it is a long play"

I had no response.

[condon84]

Originally Posted by KontradictioN

It's a talent issue, no doubt. That said, it's a coaching issue, too, because it was the coaching staff that made the moves, the consequences of which we are still seeing out there to this day.

I'm hesitant to blame this all on a talent issue. It's the same scouting department that's rebuilt the offense and the front seven. And from watching our DBs play, they all seem to be playing the same technique. Cover schemes also have been vanilla.

[Miktik]

Originally Posted by KontradictioN

It's a talent issue, no doubt. That said, it's a coaching issue, too, because it was the coaching staff that made the moves, the consequences of which we are still seeing out there to this day.

What worries me though is that Bill and his picked staff don't have a philosophy/schemes to deal with the newer NFL that favors receivers. Remember the old days when our secondary would play smashmouth ball-crushing recevers at the line and also making guys "pay". You can't do a lot of that stuff anymore and it seemed to be Belichick's trademark.

[KontradictioN]

Originally Posted by condon84

I'm hesitant to blame this all on a talent issue. It's the same scouting department that's rebuilt the offense and the front seven. And from watching our DBs play, they all seem to be playing the same technique. Cover schemes also have been vanilla.

Not from I've seen. Do you have the All-22 view, though, because I may be wrong. But it looks like the Pats change things up back there a lot... to the same results.

[sevengables_2207]

I assume the coaches teach the same techniques as they did back in the Super Bowl days. New coaches, for sure, which plays a role. There are a lot of factors here all contributing to some degree: coaching, talent (or perceived lack thereof), "point of emphasis" pass coverage interpretation (a la Polian and the CC)...

Bottom line is that this pass defense is lousy, and it does not seem like a quick fix is in the offering.

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Originally Posted by cstjohn17

My daughter (5), son (7) and wife all said "Why would Seattle run the ball? Everytime they pass it is a long play"

I had no response.

I think an embryo would say the same thing if they could talk instead of kick

Pass,pass,pass and beat the Pats......it's a blueprint every team can use all year.