Sciz

1. That's ridiculous
2. We know about 1% of what Belichick knows on this matter. Hard to judge too much when there's obviously something going on that we don't know.

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Deus Irae

I think game plan, personnel and execution have been the problem for the Patriots, and that's in both games. After the first game, I pointed to what I thought was just a mediocre performance by the offense, and I was told I was reading it wrong.

This second game was just the furtherance of the pattern, likely due in fair part to the LT, RG, RT and TE issues.

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crawhammer

It's not ridiculous. Seriously, what don't we know? That Edelman is suddenly a better option than Welker? Give me a break. When Welker got his chances today he was the most dynamic receiver on the field. Any fool can see that Welker is at least much more skilled than Edelman as a slot WR.

Edelman being ahead of Welker on the depth chart is moronic. Period. Belichick's just being a stubborn, arrogant ass (likely holding a grudge over the contract issue) and in the process he's creating a competitive disadvantage for his team. Egregiously irresponsible.

MoLewisrocks

That's the company line and Brady always echos it. Just like everyone works hard and how its his job to find ways to get them the ball even when they aren't getting open or catching it...

And most of the time execution is the cause of all their problems. Tonight though it seemed to be exacerbated by a single minded game plan that strives to avoid incorporating the reigning league leader in receptions in perhaps an effort to move away from him for reason's no one can seem to fathom given they are paying him $9.5M.

Again, he had a great camp per all the reports. Same old Wes. Edleman saw a lot more time. But then Wes was on the bench for the pre season games. Started after he missed practice due to a death in the family. And I'd hate to think Bill somehow saw that as misplaced priority. Then he practiced in pads in Tampa and didn't play in week 3. That was when some though he might have been dinged. That was a month ago. Hasn't been on the injury report since. So nothing explains this beyond them feeling Edleman is a better WR, and if they believe that they're out of their minds. He was on the field for more snaps and had fewer targets and 5 caches for 50 yards to Welker's 5 for 95. But hey, it was on a night where Brandon Lloyd was playing the role of Deion Branch, so who knows...

Deion Branch was another guy who looked great in camp when they let him compete and then couldn't get on the field or the roster because I guess he didn't fit some plan.

It's just really bizarre. But then this is now a team carrying 6 TE's 4 of whom can't get on the field and starting a 4th string RG because they wanted some concessions or insurance from their pro bowl RG. Seems almost foolish to question why they would be choosing to start a 5th WR and PR as their #2. The answer is obviously because they thought they could.

MoLewisrocks

Actually, I think the LT was the best OLman on the field today. It was really the interior OL who played badly as a group. But you could probably add WR to your issues list.

ATippett56

Funny how the New England Patriots organization finally caved in at the end to Logan Mankins.

As for the wide receiver situation, the Edelman versus Welker debacle rages on.

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Deus Irae

I didn't call them WR issues because it seems to be something deliberate on the part of the Patriots. Instead, I'd include it under game plan.

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MoLewisrocks

Seasonal agenda driven game planning has possibly effed up the roster out of the gate.

Linda_The_Pats_Fan (She was NEM)

BB was BB. It was McDaniels that sucked. For all the success that McDaniels allegedly had in the past, his biggest weakness is still the same, failure to adjust and the willingness to admit what he was doing wasnt working.

It was apparent, as early as the first half, that McDaniels game plan and play selection just were getting the team nowhere, and fast. But it wasnt until midway through the final quarter that McDaniels made the changes, and we saw the team move the ball consistently and were in position to win the game.

Only a penalty marker thrown by an obscure official which would probably have never been thrown 99 out of 100 times kept the Pats from winning.

As far as getting an answer out of BB, forget it. He will not mention this game again, at least to the media and to the public. It is over.

And, for me, is is over, too. Immediately at games end I was in shock, disbelief and on the edge of tears. It lasted that way for several hours. Years ago it would last for days and day, and even longer.

But now, for me, it is over. We can not change what happened. And so, I, and all of us, need to move on. Tomorrow is a new day. Next Sunday will be a new opponent and for three hours we will all watch, and begin again.

I have been with this team since day one in 1960. There have been many bad days and many good days, but the pain was never greater than the pain I had today when this game came to an end. I will, probably,never forget it, but it, and the pain will fade.

I can say this, that having all of my fellow Pats fans that are in this forum to cry with, ***** with and feel each others pain has made it easier for me..... And so..... on to Baltimore.