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Old 08-22-2012, 01:52 PM   #1
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Question Let's consider the Shadow Roster

I define Belichick's unofficial Shadow Roster of varying size annually, as the players that Bill makes unofficial arrangements like a an agreement to agree with the terms of a proposed contract to be signed, if they receive "THE PHONE CALL". They are spare' parts, beyond the 53 man roster, and the Practice Squad, available to temporarily plug a hole created by an injury or a sequence of injuries that have depleted the depth the Pats had at their position.

Bill tells these mostly overaged, but formerly Star NFL Veterans who are just too old, without the stamina, to withstand the grind of a season anymore. But might or could play some snaps at a high level if they don't have to pace themselves too much, for one or several games. In return, they promise to stay in shape, might have familiarity with the Playbook, or at least the plays for the position they used to play.

Potential candidates are: Gerard Warren DT, Dan Koppen OL, Donte Stallworth WR, Deon Branch WR, Visanthe Shiancoe TE, Kevin Faulk RB, James Ihedigbo S, Will Allen CB/S, Tracy White ST/LB, Niko Koutevides ST/LB, and possibly Brian Waters OG, and Matt Light OT...

Both Warren who did so last season, and Faulk are obvious candidates, but no one seems to mention the other candidates...

What do you think?
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:25 PM   #2
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Branch is making the 53.
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If Light weren't 100% done with his career, he'd be on the roster right now, considering our current T situation.
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I define Belichick's unofficial Shadow Roster of varying size annually, as the players that Bill makes unofficial arrangements like a an agreement to agree with the terms of a proposed contract to be signed, if they receive "THE PHONE CALL". They are spare' parts, beyond the 53 man roster, and the Practice Squad, available to temporarily plug a hole created by an injury or a sequence of injuries that have depleted the depth the Pats had at their position.

Bill tells these mostly overaged, but formerly Star NFL Veterans who are just too old, without the stamina, to withstand the grind of a season anymore. But might or could play some snaps at a high level if they don't have to pace themselves too much, for one or several games. In return, they promise to stay in shape, might have familiarity with the Playbook, or at least the plays for the position they used to play.

Potential candidates are: Gerard Warren DT, Dan Koppen OL, Donte Stallworth WR, Deon Branch WR, Visanthe Shiancoe TE, Kevin Faulk RB, James Ihedigbo S, Will Allen CB/S, Tracy White ST/LB, Niko Koutevides ST/LB, and possibly Brian Waters OG, and Matt Light OT...

Both Warren who did so last season, and Faulk are obvious candidates, but no one seems to mention the other candidates...

What do you think?
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I think no one mentions your other candidates because they will either more likely make the team here or get picked up somewhere else. And one of them is truly retired and if the other one doesn't come back shortly that's where he's heading, too.
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Gerard Warren DT ......Shadow
Dan Koppen OL.....on 53 else if cut/traded with another team NOT shadow
Donte Stallworth WR......cut & with another team
Deon Branch WR....on 53, if not a definite Shadow
Visanthe Shiancoe TE...on 53, else IR
Kevin Faulk RB....shadow
James Ihedigbo S...on 53 or cut & shadow but for the love of God, NO!!!
Will Allen CB/S...on 53
Tracy White ST/LB... on 53 or shadow
Niko Koutevides ST/LB... on 53 or shadow; PS elegible?
Brian Waters OG...on 53 or retired
Matt Light OT....100% RETIRED Crone's disease and not bulked up
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Matt Light OT....100% RETIRED Crone's disease and not bulked up
Wow. That's trouble.

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Gerard Warren, DT - Shadow

Dan Koppen, C - 53 man roster
Brian Waters, OG - 53 man roster or retirement
Deon Branch, WR - 53 man roster
Niko Koutouvides, ST/LB - 53 man roster

Donte Stallworth, WR - cut
Visanthe Shiancoe, TE - cut
Tracy White, ST/LB - cut
James Ihedigbo, S - cut (for the love of humanity send him back to the Jets)
Will Allen, CB - cut

Kevin Faulk, RB - retirement
Matt Light, OT - retirement
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Warren's likely a shadow roster candidate. Too much depth and fresher bodies ahead of him at this point. Faulk may be too, although the injuries at RB would have to be absolutely horrific in order for him to get that call so I see it as more likely that he retires. Will Allen seems like a name that might make the shadow roster. Light is definitely retired.

Branch, Koppen, and Koutouvides are making the 53. Stallworth, Shiancoe, Ihedigbo, and Tracy White will all be cut and get jobs elsewhere.
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