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Old 03-06-2012, 10:39 AM   #1
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I would like us to make an offer to Wallace, but I don't expect him to play for us. Few RFA's end up playing for other teams. In the end end, the team matches. Consider that we need to offer Wallace enough money so that it is beyond what PITT will match plus give up a top draft pick.

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I would like us to make an offer to Wallace, but I don't expect him to play for us. Few RFA's end up playing for other teams. In the end end, the team matches. Consider that we need to offer Wallace enough money so that it is beyond what PITT will match plus give up a to[p draft pick.

Pitt isn't a team to play poker with, they set their limit and stick to it and overpaying for Wallace is a really bad idea. I'm all for going after the right RFA's but he wouldn't be a good example of that.
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Wallace is good value at the 31st pick. Paying him should be doable since he has a limited number of teams that can afford to both pay him AND give up the pick. I think we go after him.

We'd still need a draft pick, somebody large and a decent deep threat (say: Tommy Streeter or similar) in the infamous third round.

The only way around going after Wallace would be to sign Garcon, a lesser player who would cost us a lot of money because many will be after him (UFA).
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I would like us to make an offer to Wallace, but I don't expect him to play for us. Few RFA's end up playing for other teams. In the end end, the team matches. Consider that we need to offer Wallace enough money so that it is beyond what PITT will match plus give up a to[p draft pick.
So why waste the time? One reason (beyond the first) so few high tendered players ever get signed to an offer sheet is teams don't want to be tied up for 7 days with their cap availability while alternate targets get snapped up.
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Wallace is good value at the 31st pick. Paying him should be doable since he has a limited number of teams that can afford to both pay him AND give up the pick. I think we go after him.

We'd still need a draft pick, somebody large and a decent deep threat (say: Tommy Streeter or similar) in the infamous third round.

The only way around going after Wallace would be to sign Garcon, a lesser player who would cost us a lot of money because many will be after him (UFA).

Think Bill would have ever used a first pre 2011 to draft a WR he had to pay $8-10M per? Hypothetically speaking of course because we know he didn't... That would be beyond trading up for a WR the way Atlanta did last season - something Bill advised Dimetroff not to do.
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Giving up a First round pick AND signing him to a big contract. No thanks.
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I would like us to make an offer to Wallace, but I don't expect him to play for us. Few RFA's end up playing for other teams. In the end end, the team matches. Consider that we need to offer Wallace enough money so that it is beyond what PITT will match plus give up a to[p draft pick.
As far as getting past a Pittsburgh match, it's not the amount of money as much as it is the amount of money that goes against the cap this season.
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At last report Pittsburgh was $12.5M under the cap pending tenders for RFA or ERFA. We are about $14M under pending ours now that Welker is tagged.
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Think Bill would have ever used a first pre 2011 to draft a WR he had to pay $8-10M per? Hypothetically speaking of course because we know he didn't... That would be beyond trading up for a WR the way Atlanta did last season - something Bill advised Dimetroff not to do.

The problem with Julio Jones was two-fold:

1) no track record, just high potential

2) a future high draft pick beyond the year he was drafted was due

Neither applies to Wallace, (proven player, a single draft pick only in this year). I want a legitimate deep threat, I'd settle with Garcon but I'd prefer Wallace.

First, 31st is basically a a very high second round pick. Only somewhat more than we paid for C. Jackson ....... I say this because I think of last years trade with NO gave us the extra first (along with Vereen) and the necessary flexibility to be able to make such a deal. I think, despite the money, that Wallace would be a good value (as a proven player, still young). He'd fit in with Brady's window AND must be defended as a real honest threat to score on any play (as '07 Moss was).
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First, 31st is basically a a very high second round pick. Only somewhat more than we paid for C. Jackson ....... I say this because I think of last years trade with NO gave us the extra first (along with Vereen) and the necessary flexibility to be able to make such a deal. I think, despite the money, that Wallace would be a good value (as a proven player, still young). He'd fit in with Brady's window AND must be defended as a real honest threat to score on any play (as '07 Moss was).
The difference is that Jackson's contract was closer to 4 years/$4M than 4 years/$40M as Wallace's would be.
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