randomk1

I was just about to make a thread about this and i gotta say i agree on the general consensus in here...it's seems like a wash. He certainly isn't going to stick the running game any longer than BOB.

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patsfan-1982

i dont think josh is a great OC i think the offense will be the same they will score 35+ vs bad teams and will have a hard time scoreing 20 vs any team that can hold gronk and welker under 10 rec each,


for me the key is can BB build a defense in 2012 that can get the big 3 and outs

BradyMoss812

But if we bring in a deep threat (which I think we will), then that stretches the field vertically and Gronk, Hernandez & Welker get more catches.

Imagine if opposing teams have to worry about someone like Colston, VJax or Lloyd going downfield, with what we have already that's a matchup nightmare.

jcdavey

IMO there was a HUGE difference

the pats were ALOT smarter this sb, they kept it underneath mostly, they didn't try and impose their deep passing game on the giants like they did in sb 42

in sb 42, they kept calling plays that took way too long to develop for the dline they were trying to develop them against....it just wasn't smart

this sb, brady had 16 completions in a row, because NE was taking what was being given to them, it was very smart

i'm not saying they didn't run enough, it's clear they didn't as evidenced by the time of possession discrepancy, but the passing game in sb 46 was leaps and bounds smarter than sb 42

parthasas

I totally agree ! until we establish a good clock killing running game and STICK to it in crucial games AKA superbowl, he ain't gonna do squat. BoB, McD are all cut from the same cloth, No adjustments, No imagination.

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Rob0729

Well, it could be worse. He could be as run adverse as Charlie Weis who is the only Patriots OC to have the Pats run for less than 42% of the time (39.6%) in a single season.

People need to stop this "McDaniels never had the Pats run the ball crap". Other than 2004 where the Pats rand for nearly 51% of the time and 2003 where they ran for under 40% of the time, the Pats have always ran between 42-47% of the time no matter the coordinators. The stats back that up. McDaniels haters just made up the myth that he hated to run the ball.

Rob0729

McDaniels is far more imaginative than O'Brien. Even last year, people were complaining how predictable the Pats' offense was. McDaniels also seems to know how to attack other team's weaknesses better than O'Brien and the Pats almost always had fast starts with him.

O'Brien was better at making adjustments though.

Overall, McDaniels is a better OC. Based on how much time Belichick spent with his back to the game working with the defense with McDaniels vs. O'Brien, I think Belichick trusts McDaniels more to call a game without his supervision. Because the defense needed his attention less when McDaniels was here than when O'Brien ran things, yet he worked with the defense more to make in game adjustments when McDaniels was here running the offense.

sevengables_2207

I can see them going after Brandon Lloyd in FA.

As for every down runningback, I heard a rumor that Run DMC is on the trading block. If this is even true, and NE feels the need to add a complete running back, he may be someone they inquire about, although I think they are okay at that position (personally feel they, as a unit, were underutilized and misused by O'Brien).

sevengables_2207

They had a guy named Moss who set records that season. Might explain why they called their fare share of long developing plays for their all-pro deep option in the passing game.

makoute

That's because they don't really have a deep passing game.

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