No Huddle....Again - New England Patriots Forums

Kid~Brady · 01-20-2012, 09:47 AM

So I'm listening to WEEI as we speak and there is so many callers wanting the Patriots to start of the game directly in no huddle. I honestly don't think its a good idea, I'd rather let Brady get an idea of what the defense is trying to do then when he sees the defensive personnel he likes, kill em. I understand attempting to confuse the defense and keep them on their toes but I'd rather give Brady a chance to feel the defense's scheme before just throwing the ball up and down the field.

Of course we want them to set the tone on offense as early as possible but would coming right out in no huddle help this? I know eventually we'll get the no huddle going especially sinse the Ravens aren't the best cover team linebackers especially after dealing with these TEs and being gassed as the game progresses.

Thoughts?

***nabwong*** · 01-20-2012, 09:49 AM

Depends. If we hit a play for over 20 yards on the first play, then no-huddle. If we get stuffed in the back-field. Regroup.

I think Brady will be a good judge of setting the tempo.

***Rob0729*** · 01-20-2012, 09:55 AM

I don't know. I really don't know enough about the Ravens and their substitutions. If they substitute a lot depending on situations, I would run the no huddle all the time. I think they may want to pull Ray Lewis off the field on third downs because he is too slow to cover Gronk or Hernandez, but a no huddle will keep him on the field.

I am leaning towards going with the no huddle for this game just because their defense is older and slower than others. They could get worn out quickly if the pace of the game is up tempo for the first two or three quarters.

robertweathers · 01-20-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Avon_Barksdale

I think a no huddle would be effective. As far as Ray is concerned, he never comes off the field, even with his handi-caps in covering. He probably wont be manning up with the TE's that much anyway, so no getting him out is not going to happen. Ravens will have alot of DB's active, and none of them other than Reed are out their 20's. So they shouldnt get as tired as quickly, as long as the offense takes care of their business and give them rest

Along with Lewis, my impression is that McClain and Johnson are sub-standard in coverage.

Accurate?

RodThePat · 01-20-2012, 10:35 AM

I'd start the game in a regular pace and would only go no-huddle if we find the Ravens in a very favorable formation. If we start out in the no-huddle and go three and out, all of a sudden you have taken 20 seconds off the clock and the Ravens are getting the football. That has happened before this season, a good example would be the Colts game.

Kid~Brady · 01-20-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Avon_Barksdale

they do alright. Ravens have not given up many yards or td's to TE this year. Nobody has gone over 70 yds i think, and that's including Gates and Vernon Davis

Thats awesome, that defense should as good as they are but they haven't faced a pair of TEs like this. And Chargers didn't need Gates that game honestly

robertweathers · 01-20-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Avon_Barksdale

they do alright. Ravens have not given up many yards or td's to TE this year. Nobody has gone over 70 yds i think, and that's including Gates and Vernon Davis

I ask b/c typically with a great red-zone D, you find two qualities.

-The offense cannot/won't run the ball because they will not be successful.
-There is speed & discipline in the LB and secondary.

Lewis and McClain are excellent/very instinctive players & run defenders. Obviously that attribute is beneficial at the goal line where quick decisions need to be made.

With that said, when the Pats are at the goal line, by utilizing the TE as pass receivers, that will be an interesting matchup to watch - especially where size and coverage skills are important.

***TruthSeeker*** · 01-20-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RodThePat

I'd start the game in a regular pace and would only go no-huddle if we find the Ravens in a very favorable formation. If we start out in the no-huddle and go three and out, all of a sudden you have taken 20 seconds off the clock and the Ravens are getting the football. That has happened before this season, a good example would be the Colts game.

The more plays in this game, the more I like the Patriots chances.

Personally, I think clock time is overrated. What matters (at least in the first 3 quarters) is not the time taken off the clock but the number of plays run. Also, the total number of possessions in the game (i.e. scoring opportunities).

***Rob0729*** · 01-20-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Avon_Barksdale

I think a no huddle would be effective. As far as Ray is concerned, he never comes off the field, even with his handi-caps in covering. He probably wont be manning up with the TE's that much anyway, so no getting him out is not going to happen. Ravens will have alot of DB's active, and none of them other than Reed are out their 20's. So they shouldnt get as tired as quickly, as long as the offense takes care of their business and give them rest

I was talking about Reed, Lewis, and Redding when I was talking old. I probably should have been far more specific on that one. Their overall defense relies on size and strength over speed, but only certain players are older although they are some key players.

But if the Pats go into the no huddle, it doesn't matter how many DBs they have because there will be very little substitutions.

Patspsycho · 01-20-2012, 10:58 AM

I would definitely go no-huddle because the Ravens have not had much exposure to it this year.