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8. I don’t think Bill Belichick would ever do it, but given the struggles of the team developing defensive backs, it’s worth mentioning – Eric Mangini remains on the coaching market. Some of Mangini’s best work came with Patriots defensive backs.

NEPats1

Like Reiss said, BB would never do it.

Also, Mangini has too big of an ego to return as a DB coach

RelocatedPatFan

Only a little bit more likely than me becoming a coach on BB's staff (and that's only because I have no experience).

• He left being the DC to become the HC of the Jets (and i think BB would have said anywhere but there).
  
• He tried to take some coaches with him.
  
• He fired a bullet by turning in the video guy. Now i believe this was intended as a little rub against BB, but it turned into the #$@!storm that became spygate. While, i don't think Mangini thought much would happen, that's theproblem with firing bullets. If it hurts someone even by accident, you're still the guy that fired it.
  
• And as posted above, he won't be a position coach and he won't get the DC position at this time.

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fnordcircle

The rest of your post I agree with (especially the bit about Mangini just trying to play mindgames with BB and having it blown up in his face. Someone gave me a 3rd hand report that this was told to a friend of theirs who I know has regular face time with Kraft.)

But this part I don't agree with. I don't think Belichick would ever begrudge an employee leaving for another team. The thing that probably upsets BB the most that Mangini did was try to get people to come with him on the plane back after the 2006 loss.

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MoLewisrocks

His best do over shot remains KC, who lost out on Josh whom they probably needed more than a DC to free up RAC to be HC for a while. Not sure how Pioli views him, but he and RAC remained friends throughout spygate and even when Eric replaced him in Cleveland RAC stayed on his staff - when Pioli reportedly wanted him even then.

Even if Bill were to forgive and forget, which I seriously dount happens before he's retired if ever, I don't think Bob or Jonathan would tolerate it because of the damage caused to their brand. Like someone said, unintended consequences are a biatch.

PatsFanSince74

I have a feeling that there's way too much water over the bridge or under the dam (or wherever water goes) for BB to bring Mangini back for anything but latrine duty.

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RelocatedPatFan

You convinced me. I know BB does everything he can to help people get promoted and would never hold them back. But, there may be something between him and the Jets.

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PatsFanSince74

I hope he doesn't go to KC because I find it nice to have another AFC team to cheer for, except when they play or threaten the Patriots. I'd have to turn them into mortal enemies if the Rat was on their sidelines.

And, you're right about the brand damage. Living outside of New England, I can tell you that it will be years before the brand recovers beyond the franchise's home base.

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MoLewisrocks

Bill also reportedly told Eric two thiings. You're not ready (at which Eric's ego scoffed, some say he believed Bill was actually ascared of him proving he was an equal if not superior coaching genius) and you don't go there (again Eric interpreted this as being ascared of competing against him as opposed to it's a career suicide move).

Eric was something of a schematic savant, but he had some warts tied to an inflated self image and an abrasive demeanor when potentially given control or authority. He lacked humility. He's been humbled to an extent, but the latent warts possibly remain dormant just beneath the surface. Won't know 'til he's autopsied... Ergo he is dead to this organization.

MoLewisrocks

Something...that's as good a word as any for it... The man resigned on a ****tail napkin the day they named him HC...and their GM at the time attempted to spin that as someone with mental problems probably having some sort of breakdown...