NG Pats Fan

34-3! Move to 7-3, # 1 seed in the AFC currently.

As you guys know, I am a huge wide receiver fan, so bare with me because that's pretty much what I love to talk about

I have a few thoughts regarding our WRs.

Chad Johnson- Nice skills but past his prime/very unreliable
Deion Branch- Smart/Clutch but old and painfully slow
Wes Welker- Best slot WR in the game, but he is not a # 1 WR
Taylor Price- Potential this, potential that. What has he ever done?


I would really like to see the patriots get younger, taller, faster at WR before next season. I would love to see them get an elite playmaking deep threat at WR or draft a big, talented young # 1 WR in the draft. I think that's our only missing piece on the offense. We have the NFL's ultimate animal in Gronkowski, and an electrifying playmaker in Hernandez. I think if we cleanup our WR core and add compliments to Wes Welker, we will be unstoppable.

I like our offense going forward, but I fear our WR's not getting separation in the playoffs and getting jammed at the line of scrimmage.

Texxx

Personally I think that getting a really dominant player at the RB position would be a better move. I think the Pats could still find a guy or two to add to the WR core in the off season that BRady can make over achieve as a WR like he has with so many others in the past. Adding a really serious threat at the RB position that teams have to respect from a power running standpoint to me would do a lot for this offense to where Brady could work with more play action packages that teams have to respect more. I like the combo of Woody and Green Ellis and all, but they could definitely use an upgrade.

Snake Eyes

We need a physical man-beater that can work the outside and deep zones, I vote for Vincent Jackson!

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Sicilian

I wouldn't get too excited about any offensive skill position player getting picked in the 1st round. My guess (premature as this is given where we are in the season) is we're going O-Line (specifically C), D-Line, or Safety. Whichever has the best available player at our spot.

patriot lifer

Not to open up this can of worms so early, but i think a lot of this will depend on what type of defense we're running next year. If it's a 3-4, then OLB is a huge need. And what will become of a player like Andre Carter?

but that's a discussion for next offseason

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2013 Season:

Nate Solder (6'8" 320 lbs)
Seabass (6'8" 320 lbs)
Rob Gronkowski (6'6" 265 lbs)
Jake Ballard (6'6" 275 lbs)
Logan Mankins (6'4" 320 lbs) (100% recovered)
Dan Connolly (6'4" 320 lbs)
Marcus Cannon (6'5" 340 lbs) (Switch to Guard??)

RB: Ridley, Vereen, Washington, Bolden

NG Pats Fan

I think it's an absolute waste of a first round pick to use on a center. Center is by far the easiest position on offense.

We drafted Vollmer/Solder. Why would we ever go Tackle?

We have Mankings and drafted Cannon. Why would we ever go Gaurd?

We can pick up a good center in round 3


O-Line is the least of our problems in my opinion

ALP

i would agree, and also disagree

say we add 2 WR playmakers for next year, one a deep threat, and another an Andre/Calvin type of big,tall,physical WR type

our ONLY weakness would then be the O-line, and whenever we struggle in games, it is usually the O-line that is to blame

i cannot say exactly what requires the upgrade, but they just play like **** for whole halfs or whole games sometimes and its completely annoying

for the offense what i want is a big/tall WR, and a fast WR

QB is set, TE is set

i would not invest in another RB, the ones we have are good, and in all honesty while Brady is at the helm it is obvious we will never truly be dedicated to a running game, so we might as well stop wanting a playmaker at the RB position, we just need a guy(s) who will gain 4 yards consistently....

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DarrylS

BJGE has a 4.0 yards per carry for this year, but has been somewhat hampered by a turf toe.. and best of all, has never fumbled.

Very encouraged in what Ridley and Vereen have shown..

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signbabybrady

I think this is a discussion for much further in the future like when the season is done but what the hell I will play anyway.

I think it is real simple. Tom Brady, Gronk, Welker, and Hernandez are your offense and as long as the Oline is good this enough to have one of the best offenses in the league.

As far as next year and improving this offense I think you do that in a few ways. First BJGE returns and Vareen and Ridley step up to improve the overall rushing attack. Keep Woodhead and maybe bring in one more set of legs (depends on how Vareen and Ridley respond in the offseason). No priority.

WRs. Cant let Welker go or you need big offseason moves. So priority retain Welker. Then I would do two things I would bring in another young kid to compete with Price and Edelman for the two bottom spots on WR depth (hopefully one of the three steps up big but if not you are still good and one would be gone). Second I would replace Ocho with a vet who hopefully would grasp the system better and be the legitimate other option we hoped Chad would be. I dont care about size or deep threat as I think that is overplayed just someone who can push Branch a little further down the depth and be productive consistantly. Sure it would be great to have a Megatron type but realistically speaking there is a need for a consitant option but not a need for Megatron (other than the obvious It would be great to have the best at all 22 positions but just isnt possible) .
No need for big overhaul and no need to think this would be a position of importance this offseason (assuming Welker is back).

I think that with the young TEs, young RBs, and Young OLinemen, we really are pretty well set on offense other than a few minor complimentary pieces to add and you should be one of the best Os again next year. I think this is awesome because it means we can really focus on D and maybe add Two first rounders to the D and Add our top FA move to the D as well.

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Patriot_in_NY

Not really a comment about the overall topic, but really just an observation from last night. Not really a great indication to illustrate your point.

His entire career, Brady always takes what the defense gives him. Last night, KC obviously took a page from the Squeelers playbook (albeit with a much inferior defense) and tried to play much more press on our WRs. There wasn't a lot there for them.

However, it left a ton of room our there for TE's and Gronk (and AaHa to a lessor extent) were running free pretty much. They were consistently mismatched on the field and TFB made them pay, as he usually does.

So, while an top-flight elite WR may or may not needed, last night isn't a great illustration of that point. This offense evolves around Brady's ability to 1) understand what the defense is trying to do, and 2) exploit it and make it work against them. When the OL keeps him upright, he almost ALWAYS does exactly that.

Last night is a textbook example of that. Certainly moreso the exposing a "glaring need" at WR.

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