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Replayed part of brady's interviewed and says if the giants were accused of cheating and if tom coughlin had a history of this then would pats fans and brady have let this go?

Same old crap from every media member.i though dan patrick was a little balanced. I still dont know why dont they answer how brady threw for 50 tds and won an mvp without benefitting from taped signals ?

nummit

BB has a "history" of cheating???

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upstater1

Well, Patrick's argument is an excellent one.

This is sports. We're under no real obligation to a moral or ethical truth. Most of us are fanatics. We side with the home team. Why? Because it's sports.

In answer to Patrick's question: if the shoe were on the other foot, we'd be blasting the Patriots too, without a care for context or logic.

That's exactly the problem here. People are making their points based on their hatred of the Patriots. Because they are fans. I understand that. It makes sense. They want to take the big dog down. If there were real world repercussions to this, then I'd say that it's wrong for other fans to do this. But there aren't. It only hurts the Patriots. And anything that hurts the Patriots helps the Colts, Jets, Bills, Phins, etc. That's how it is.

Patrick is actually arguing against himself. He's basically underlining the fact that fans are dismissing logical arguments and simply piling on like hyenas, which is exactly what Brady was saying about ESPN.

oldskool138

What does Danica Patrick think of Brady?

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Koma

I can only speak for myself, but I think Patriots fans would have had their fun and taken their shots if another team was in a similar situation. I have no issue with Patrick making this point.

The issue I have is that media members acted (and continue to act) like fans in this situation. Patrick would have created a better discussion if he addressed that.

bakes781

If this happened to ANY other team the media attention would be minimal by comparison therefore the public outcry would be equally as small.

dhamz

Were the blasts of the Broncos cheating the salary cap at the same level as the blasts of the Pats? How about when the 49ers also cheated the cap?

How about the blasts for the 49ers for tampering?

Are those two forms of cheating OK, and stealing signals with a banned method are not?

Both of the first 2 get you players you otherwise would not have. What the Pats did gets you video of signals rather than still pictures or hand written notes like other teams all have.

upstater1

The point he's making actually supports Brady's position. People are reacting to Spygate out of their loyalties, not out of any logical or reasoned arguments.

If I were a fan of another team, I never would have investigated all the nuances of spygate. I wouldn't have cared.

chris_in_sunnyvale

Um, Dan...

The shoe was on the other foot...at Miami in 2006. You know what my reaction was? Not outrage against Miami, but rather disgust that the Pats didn't change up their audibles.

Stealing signals has been part of the game for years, whether done with video tape, audio tape, scouts with binoculars or whatever. Teams have to be ready for it.

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Chris

Drewwho

Bottom line is Tom needs to shutty! No one wants to hear from him on Spygate and based on his WEEI interview yesterday he is getting pretty beat up today and I think deservedly so!

If the tables were reversed and this was Peyton Manning, QB of the Spygate Colts on some Indy Radio station, ALL of us of us would be questioning his Superbowl win, his stats and his overall legacy. Tom Brady is part of this mess like it or not and because of it, his legacy has been tarnished. The Pats and BB made him a superstar and with one decision back in September of 2007 by his coach, he single-handly destroyed the stellar reputation of one of the NFL's biggest stars.

Surely I know Tom is a great QB and logically he did get no benefit from Spygate, but the average fan - non Pat fan, choses to ignore facts. They call it Cheating and Tom is now labeled a Cheater - the lead Cheater along with his coach. That is now their great legacy. I heard people talking on The Fan today saying that they continued to cheat even last year (2007)and that is why Brady had the year he had. Basically, you cannot win on Spygate. Brady has got to know that and keep silent. Why stir the pot? There was a time Brady was better and smarter than that, but those days are gone. Could be his ego, or it could be his bitterness over the whole thing, but there was a time he was better than this and stooping this level. The only thing that cures this is silence, letting go and winning. Tom knows it and I am shocked by his comments on Spygate yesterday. I loved his comments on the team in general and overall loss in the SB and taking the blame and I also loved his praise of the Giants, but the comments about ESPN, the Jets and so forth were so unBrady like and stupid! Surely the Jets will use his no respect comments during our 2 games this season. Stupid Tom, just stupid!

I have to admit this to myself, although in denial for a while, I am now convinced that Tom is not the same guy he once was. Bound to happen with his stardom and the lifestyle he leads. I am sure his teammates and family see a difference in this once humble, quiet, hardworking, respectable guy. Just listening to him prior to the SB with the comments on Burress saying the Pats were only going to score 17pts, then skipping the workouts and now listening to him yesterday it seems he is jaded and has lost the shine so to speak. Sad reality, but it's who he is now. A rock star athlete with an arrogance and above it all persona. I can understand why alot, and I mean ALOT of people hate him. I would too if I was a fan of another team. He used to say the right things, do the right things, but suddenly he keeps opening up his mouth and this arrogant crap spouts out. Makes me a little sick!