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Old 09-27-2011, 03:01 PM   #1
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My son was watching NFL Live (edited) this afternoon and they showed the PI call on Sergio Brown that resulted in the ball being placed on the 1yd line. From there the Bills had no problem scoring the TD.

The reason I ask is that one of the commentators said that it was a bad call because Brown raised his hands up and the Bill's receiver wrapped him up. If anything it was an offensive PI.

I cant find any video of the play but would ask that anyone who DVR'd the game check it out. I know it is history but it could join the 4th and 2 call from 2 years ago and the non-holding call in the game that shall not be mentioned in the pantheon of calls that turned a win into a loss.

I still believe you have to play the game with all the variables, including bad referees, but sometimes that belief is severely tested.

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Old 09-27-2011, 03:16 PM   #2
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My son was watching NFL Live (edited) this afternoon and they showed the PI call on Sergio Brown that resulted in the ball being placed on the 1yd line. From there the Bills had no problem scoring the TD.

The reason I ask is that one of the commentators said that it was a bad call because Brown raised his hands up and the Bill's receiver wrapped him up. If anything it was an offensive PI.

I cant find any video of the play but would ask that anyone who DVR'd the game check it out. I know it is history but it could join the 4th and 2 call from 2 years ago and the non-holding call in the game that shall not be mentioned in the pantheon of calls that turned a win into a loss.

I still believe you have to play the game with all the variables, including bad referees, but sometimes that belief is severely tested.
Many of us have said exactly that. That it was a bad call and it should have been Offensive PI.
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Brown wasn't looking at the ball and he ran right into the receiver, who was looking at the ball. After the initial contact it did look like the receiver held him, but Brown definitely was responsible for the initial contact. The call probably should have been offsetting penalties.

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I don't know if it was really a bad call. Looked like Brown blocked the receiver's path back to the ball. That is PI.
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Though I don't know were to look up the replay I remember watching the game live and the replay they showed and thinking what a horrible call. Sergio Brown had his head turned and his arms where not holding anyone. Makes you wonder what outcome of game would've been without that bad call. Oh well, live goes on.
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Correct call, incredibly stupid rule.

I've said for years that PI penalties for underthrown balls are hog wash. As if the defensive back isn't at enough of a disadvantage with the new passing mania; now, even if the coverage is perfect, the QB can just drop the ball 15 yards in in front of the route and a PI is inevitable.
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From what I remember from seeing it live...Brown was going back towards the under thrown ball when Nelson grabbed Brown and wrapped him up in an attempt to stop a pick (which he didn't ) Offensive PI in my books that was.

At least it wasn't a cheap call like the one Austin Collie got 2 seasons ago where he just ran into the Patriots DB coming back to an under thrown ball
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From what I remember from seeing it live...Brown was going back towards the under thrown ball when Nelson grabbed Brown and wrapped him up in an attempt to stop a pick (which he didn't ) Offensive PI in my books that was.

At least it wasn't a cheap call like the one Austin Collie got 2 seasons ago where he just ran into the Patriots DB coming back to an under thrown ball
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I have the DVR and remember that play. Sergio had his hands on the receiver and was not looking at the ball for at least a second. Anyone who you challenge about this would just bring up that small point and it doesn't matter what the receiver did after that.

It's weak at best (i know), but this is the NFL we live in.
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can anyone upload or find a video of this?
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